Big or small

"Silicon Sam" <SiliconSam DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 25, 3:13 pm, "Garry Beattie" <gjbeat... DeleteThis @iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Hi Guys.
>
> Excuse my ignorance, but one thing I have wondered lately is why the TF
> cars
> have gone back to using the larger front wheels?
>
> I remember back in the late 80's they went from the larger wheels to the
> smaller, go cart type front wheels, claiming they created less air flow
> turbulence.
> I notice by the mid 90's they had all switched back to the larger wheels
> again.
>
> What was the reason for that?
>
> Garry

Actually, I remember they lasted less than that.

I think one reason I heard is the difference in rollout between the
starting beams, and all said and done, they thought they didn't make
much of a difference overall. Add to this, the covered canopy which
several had experimented with.


Speed. Top Fuel is faster and maybe Goodyear tires are safer. Maybe?
Wayne
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"Silicon Sam" <SiliconSam RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eb208d9d-56c7-4289-b35b-9445b721f2fe@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 25, 3:13 pm, "Garry Beattie" <gjbeat... RemoveThis @iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> Hi Guys.
>>
>> Excuse my ignorance, but one thing I have wondered lately is why the TF
>> cars
>> have gone back to using the larger front wheels?
>>
>> I remember back in the late 80's they went from the larger wheels to the
>> smaller, go cart type front wheels, claiming they created less air flow
>> turbulence.
>> I notice by the mid 90's they had all switched back to the larger wheels
>> again.
>>
>> What was the reason for that?
>>
>> Garry
>
> Actually, I remember they lasted less than that.
>
> I think one reason I heard is the difference in rollout between the
> starting beams, and all said and done, they thought they didn't make
> much of a difference overall. Add to this, the covered canopy which
> several had experimented with.
>

Thanks Sam.

I am not trying to be smart here or anything but if they didn't make much of
a difference, how come EVERYONE has changed back?
You would think there would still be some small wheel models out there.

Personally I thought they looked ridiculous but they eventually grew on me
and I have always wondered why they did not stick with them.

Its just me thinking out loud here.

best regards

Garry
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The reason everyone changed back is because the NHRA mandated the larger
tire/wheel combo. I'm not sure of the reasoning behind this though...


"Garry Beattie" <gjbeattie.TakeThisOut@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> "Silicon Sam" <SiliconSam.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:eb208d9d-56c7-4289-b35b-9445b721f2fe@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com...
>> On Dec 25, 3:13 pm, "Garry Beattie" <gjbeat....TakeThisOut@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>> Hi Guys.
>>>
>>> Excuse my ignorance, but one thing I have wondered lately is why the TF
>>> cars
>>> have gone back to using the larger front wheels?
>>>
>>> I remember back in the late 80's they went from the larger wheels to the
>>> smaller, go cart type front wheels, claiming they created less air flow
>>> turbulence.
>>> I notice by the mid 90's they had all switched back to the larger wheels
>>> again.
>>>
>>> What was the reason for that?
>>>
>>> Garry
>>
>> Actually, I remember they lasted less than that.
>>
>> I think one reason I heard is the difference in rollout between the
>> starting beams, and all said and done, they thought they didn't make
>> much of a difference overall. Add to this, the covered canopy which
>> several had experimented with.
>>
>
> Thanks Sam.
>
> I am not trying to be smart here or anything but if they didn't make much
> of a difference, how come EVERYONE has changed back?
> You would think there would still be some small wheel models out there.
>
> Personally I thought they looked ridiculous but they eventually grew on me
> and I have always wondered why they did not stick with them.
>
> Its just me thinking out loud here.
>
> best regards
>
> Garry
>
>
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"Planar1" <sgfan DeleteThis @bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> The reason everyone changed back is because the NHRA mandated the larger
> tire/wheel combo. I'm not sure of the reasoning behind this though...

Ahh. That would make a lot more sense.

Garry
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:24:46 +1000, "Garry Beattie"
<gjbeattie DeleteThis @iinet.net.au> wrote:

> "Silicon Sam" <SiliconSam DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:eb208d9d-56c7-4289-b35b-9445b721f2fe@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com...
>> On Dec 25, 3:13 pm, "Garry Beattie" <gjbeat... DeleteThis @iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>> Hi Guys.
>>>
>>> Excuse my ignorance, but one thing I have wondered lately is why the TF
>>> cars
>>> have gone back to using the larger front wheels?
>>>
>>> I remember back in the late 80's they went from the larger wheels to the
>>> smaller, go cart type front wheels, claiming they created less air flow
>>> turbulence.
>>> I notice by the mid 90's they had all switched back to the larger wheels
>>> again.
>>>
>>> What was the reason for that?
>>>
>>> Garry
>>
>> Actually, I remember they lasted less than that.
>>
>> I think one reason I heard is the difference in rollout between the
>> starting beams, and all said and done, they thought they didn't make
>> much of a difference overall. Add to this, the covered canopy which
>> several had experimented with.
>>
>
>Thanks Sam.
>
>I am not trying to be smart here or anything but if they didn't make much of
>a difference, how come EVERYONE has changed back?
>You would think there would still be some small wheel models out there.
>
>Personally I thought they looked ridiculous but they eventually grew on me
>and I have always wondered why they did not stick with them.
>
>Its just me thinking out loud here.
>
>best regards
>
>Garry

A small wheel would be running a lot of RPM at the top end.
I think that's probably why they don't use the small wheels,
safety reasons. The small tire could possibly explode.

Geo.
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"George Mooth" <gmoothdoh DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> A small wheel would be running a lot of RPM at the top end.
> I think that's probably why they don't use the small wheels,
> safety reasons. The small tire could possibly explode.
>
> Geo.

That was my other thoughts too George.

I would have also thought the extra RPM drag load on the bearings would have
out weighed the advantages of less windage from the larger wheels.

Garry
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Garry Beattie wrote:
> "George Mooth" <gmoothdoh RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:iln7n319616ms31jvl7srbki8hofc9bgvb@4ax.com...
>
>>A small wheel would be running a lot of RPM at the top end.
>>I think that's probably why they don't use the small wheels,
>>safety reasons. The small tire could possibly explode.
>>
>>Geo.
>
>
> That was my other thoughts too George.
>
> I would have also thought the extra RPM drag load on the bearings would have
> out weighed the advantages of less windage from the larger wheels.
>
> Garry
>
>

Apart from safety, roll out would be the major one, more rollout you can
get the better the ET
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If I remember correctly, it was another idea/fad started by the master
Garlits. Always innovating and trying new things, others responded by
following the latest Garlits idea. Until after a long evaluation period
they all switched back.

He's my all time TF nominee. Opps, wrong posting reply.

Bill

"Garry Beattie" <gjbeattie.TakeThisOut@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> Hi Guys.
>
> Excuse my ignorance, but one thing I have wondered lately is why the TF
> cars have gone back to using the larger front wheels?
>
> I remember back in the late 80's they went from the larger wheels to the
> smaller, go cart type front wheels, claiming they created less air flow
> turbulence.
> I notice by the mid 90's they had all switched back to the larger wheels
> again.
>
> What was the reason for that?
>
> Garry
>
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"Garry Beattie" <gjbeattie.TakeThisOut@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:47717291$0$6828$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Hi Guys.
>
> Excuse my ignorance, but one thing I have wondered lately is why the TF
> cars have gone back to using the larger front wheels?
>
> I remember back in the late 80's they went from the larger wheels to the
> smaller, go cart type front wheels, claiming they created less air flow
> turbulence.
> I notice by the mid 90's they had all switched back to the larger wheels
> again.
>
> What was the reason for that?
>
> Garry
>

I think I remember reading that one reason or thinking was that the car
steers better with the larger wheel because they work more like a rudder in
the wind.

I may be completely wrong but I thought I'd throw that in the mix.
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"JA" <noyb.RemoveThis@noyb.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Garry Beattie" <gjbeattie.RemoveThis@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
> news:47717291$0$6828$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> Hi Guys.
>>
>> Excuse my ignorance, but one thing I have wondered lately is why the TF
>> cars have gone back to using the larger front wheels?
>>
>> I remember back in the late 80's they went from the larger wheels to the
>> smaller, go cart type front wheels, claiming they created less air flow
>> turbulence.
>> I notice by the mid 90's they had all switched back to the larger wheels
>> again.
>>
>> What was the reason for that?
>>
>> Garry
>>
>
> I think I remember reading that one reason or thinking was that the car
> steers better with the larger wheel because they work more like a rudder
> in the wind.
>
> I may be completely wrong but I thought I'd throw that in the mix.
>

You know I had never even given that a thought, however I think you would be
right.

The surface area of the 2 wheels would create quite a bit of wind steerage
at 300+mph.
I wouldn't mind guessing that the wind steering at that speed would be more
responsive to the rubber tyres hitting the ground.

That could also explain why a lot of TF have solid front rims rather than
the old spokes.

Garry
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say 'sed') scrambles the names
of environment variables, and be sure to hand-ruin any proprietary
algorithms.

Why is transfer of Salomon proprietary source to a vendor's site the last
step to try? Because Salomon loses control over the code. In the Informix
/Sybase case, the vendor Informix requested (and received) another copy
of the code "because I lost the previous copy".

Two emails between the pair are enclosed.

[snip]

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:Recipient: xxxxxxx DeleteThis @roguewave.com [Dennis xxxxxxx]
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Hi Dennis,

The last patch didn't help, here's some other code that will also
trigger the bug.

This code doesn't compile for other reasons but we need to get the
Rougeview issue resolved.

Could you ask xxxx to look this over?

Thanks,

sara

:begin 600 rw4.tar.Z
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54 4x.env
139 LocalRules
344 LoginDlg.cc
65 LoginDlg.h
221 MacroRules
87 Makefile
619 OASYSMain.cc
175 OASYSMain.h
79 SubApp.cc
51 SubApp.h
54 gui_main.cc
33 gui_main.h
42 lib_inc
647 sbOfLogin.cc
113 sbOfLogin.h
0 sun4_4
22 version.txt
0 lib_inc/*.h
128 lib_inc/AccountBalance.h
22 lib_inc/AccountBalanceTest.h
59 lib_inc/AccrlInptTb.h
86 lib_inc/ArrClasT.h
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Another major category of security incidents are what I've named:

o Dumb-and-Dumber


********** begin excerpt from 'Corruption at Salomon Brothers' **********

> Date: Thu, 23 May 96 11:52:04 EDT
> From: guy
> To: vivian [Salomon lawyer to whom I reported
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with the NSA via satellite, which
* illegally watches over Australia's citizenry.

Article snippets... capitalization by the original authors...

* On a fateful fall day in America, on November 4th, 1952, a new United
* States government agency quietly was brought into existence through
* presidential decree.
*
* The birth of the National Security Agency on that day so long ago
* heralded the beginning of the world's most sophisticated and all
* encompassing surveillance system, and the beginnings of the greatest
* threat to individual liberty and freedom not only in Australia, but
* the entire planet will ever see.
*
* The NSA grew out of the post war "Signals Intelligence" section of the
* U.S. War Department. It is unique amongst government organizations in
* America, and indeed most other countries, in that there are NO specified
* or defined limits to its powers.
*
* The NSA can (and does) do just about whatever it wants, whenever, and
* wherever it wa
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UMMMMM... Yeah.

So what does this have to do with my original post asking about the big or
small front wheels on TF's???


"Silicon Sam" <SiliconSam.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> with the NSA via satellite, which
> * illegally watches over Australia's citizenry.
>
> Article snippets... capitalization by the original authors...
>
> * On a fateful fall day in America, on November 4th, 1952, a new United
> * States government agency quietly was brought into existence through
> * presidential decree.
> *
> * The birth of the National Security Agency on that day so long ago
> * heralded the beginning of the world's most sophisticated and all
> * encompassing surveillance system, and the beginnings of the greatest
> * threat to individual liberty and freedom not only in Australia, but
> * the entire planet will ever see.
> *
> * The NSA grew out of the post war "Signals Intelligence" section of the
> * U.S. War Department. It is unique amongst government organizations in
> * America, and indeed most other countries, in that there are NO
> specified
> * or defined limits to its powers.
> *
> * The NSA can (and does) do just about whatever it wants, whenever, and
> * wherever it wa
>
>
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