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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:58 pm
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I paid a mechanic to install replacement axles I bought for my 93
Sentra. On the driver's side now, you can hear a small "whistle" or
singing noise. It comes and goes, but I worry that he didn't follow spec
and there will be a problem.

And it isn't bcz the car is happy, no. : ) I just want to know what
might cause this noise.

Thanks,
JPM

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:52 pm
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On Mar 4, 11:58 pm, "DemoDisk" <pack... DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote:
> I paid a mechanic to install replacement axles I bought for my 93
> Sentra. On the driver's side now, you can hear a small "whistle" or
> singing noise. It comes and goes, but I worry that he didn't follow spec
> and there will be a problem.
>
> And it isn't bcz the car is happy, no. : )  I just want to know what
> might cause this noise.
>
> Thanks,
> JPM

A whistling sound tends to imply air moving rapidly through a small
opening. One possible cause might be that one of the plastic panels
that surround the wheel well is not secured tightly someplace. These
panels often employ plastic anchors and plastic screws that thread
into the anchors. These fasteners are fragile and often are not
reusable. If one or more broke and replacements were not available, a
plastic panel might be a bit loose somewhere resulting in a slight
opening through which air could rush when the vehicle is traveling
fast enough. The metal spash shield behind the brake caliper is a
possibility too as these often get bent during such a job. In that
case, though, a scraping sound usually results. You might try jacking
both front wheels off the ground, put the car on good jack stands and
run the engine with the transmission in gear to cause the wheels to
turn. If there is no whistling at any speed, that pretty strongly
implies an air flow problem. It also implies that it is not a
mechanical problem and hence nothing serious. Good luck. Al

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:05 am
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"al" <abuonag DeleteThis @msn.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 4, 11:58 pm, "DemoDisk" <pack... DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote:
> I paid a mechanic to install replacement axles I bought for my 93
> Sentra. On the driver's side now, you can hear a small "whistle" or
> singing noise. It comes and goes, but I worry that he didn't follow
spec
> and there will be a problem.
>
> And it isn't bcz the car is happy, no. : ) I just want to know what
> might cause this noise.
>
> Thanks,
> JPM

A whistling sound tends to imply air moving rapidly through a small
opening. One possible cause might be that one of the plastic panels
that surround the wheel well is not secured tightly someplace. These
panels often employ plastic anchors and plastic screws that thread
into the anchors. These fasteners are fragile and often are not
reusable. If one or more broke and replacements were not available, a
plastic panel might be a bit loose somewhere resulting in a slight
opening through which air could rush when the vehicle is traveling
fast enough. The metal spash shield behind the brake caliper is a
possibility too as these often get bent during such a job. In that
case, though, a scraping sound usually results. You might try jacking
both front wheels off the ground, put the car on good jack stands and
run the engine with the transmission in gear to cause the wheels to
turn. If there is no whistling at any speed, that pretty strongly
implies an air flow problem. It also implies that it is not a
mechanical problem and hence nothing serious. Good luck. Al



Thanks, Al for your explanation.

The repair seems to have uncovered or created a variety of noises that I
didn't hear before. The noise is like that made by rotating parts in
want of oil, maybe, or the water pump. I thought it was more a high
'singing' noise than a whistle. I'm pretty sure it isn't air.

The jackstand experiment could work and is worth a try.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:29 pm
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On Mar 7, 1:05 am, "DemoDisk" <pack... RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote:
> "al" <abuo... RemoveThis @msn.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1761d3d4-8f19-4639-ba04-2beff338ca22@60g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 4, 11:58 pm, "DemoDisk" <pack... RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > I paid a mechanic to install replacement axles I bought for my 93
> > Sentra. On the driver's side now, you can hear a small "whistle" or
> > singing noise. It comes and goes, but I worry that he didn't follow
> spec
> > and there will be a problem.
>
> > And it isn't bcz the car is happy, no. : ) I just want to know what
> > might cause this noise.
>
> > Thanks,
> > JPM
>
> A whistling sound tends to imply air moving rapidly through a small
> opening.  One possible cause might be that one of the plastic panels
> that surround the wheel well is not secured tightly someplace.  These
> panels often employ plastic anchors and plastic screws that thread
> into the anchors.  These fasteners are fragile and often are not
> reusable.  If one or more broke and replacements were not available, a
> plastic panel might be a bit loose somewhere resulting in a slight
> opening through which air could rush when  the vehicle is traveling
> fast enough.  The metal spash shield behind the brake caliper is a
> possibility too as these often get bent during such a job.  In that
> case, though, a scraping sound usually results.  You might try jacking
> both front wheels off the ground, put the car on good jack stands and
> run the engine with the transmission in gear to cause the wheels to
> turn.  If there is no whistling at any speed, that pretty strongly
> implies an air flow problem.  It also implies that it is not a
> mechanical problem and hence nothing serious.  Good luck.  Al
>
> Thanks, Al for your explanation.
>
> The repair seems to have uncovered or created a variety of noises that I
> didn't hear before. The noise is like that made by rotating parts in
> want of oil, maybe, or the water pump.  I thought it was more a high
> 'singing' noise than a whistle. I'm pretty sure it isn't air.
>
> The jackstand experiment could work and is worth a try.

You might also check the transmission fluid level. Removing an axle
shaft will always cause a little loss of fluid. If the loss was more
than a little, the transmission might be low on fluid and that would
surely cause a whirring sound. If the noises occur with the vehicle
stopped, tranmission in neutral and clutch engaged, then it's the
transmission. Particularly so if the noise begins when the clutch is
first engaged while stopped in neutral. Good luck. Al
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:17 pm
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It seems your mechanic forgot to grease the oil seals and the surface on
the axles where the seals make contact. Failure to lubricate the seals
will lead to premature seal failure and to a GROOVE on the axle!!!

Good luck!


DemoDisk wrote:
> I paid a mechanic to install replacement axles I bought for my 93
> Sentra. On the driver's side now, you can hear a small "whistle" or
> singing noise. It comes and goes, but I worry that he didn't follow spec
> and there will be a problem.
>
> And it isn't bcz the car is happy, no. : ) I just want to know what
> might cause this noise.
>
> Thanks,
> JPM
>
>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:21 pm
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"Andrew Chaplin" <ab.chaplin.RemoveThis@yourfinger.rogers.com> wrote in message
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> "DemoDisk" <packrat.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > That's a new one on me. What are the wrong and right kinds of
grease?
>
> GP, graphite and lithium are three common greases each with
applications where
> they produce better or worse results. GP is entirely petroleum-based,
graphite
> is used in high temperature areas, and lithium is used where
resistance to
> washout by water is needed.
> --
> Andrew Chaplin
> SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
> (If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)


Good information -- thanks, Andrew
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:48 am
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DemoDisk wrote:
> "Andrew Chaplin" <ab.chaplin.RemoveThis@yourfinger.rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:LqCdnSZ9legfU07anZ2dnUVZ_tyknZ2d@giganews.com...
> > "DemoDisk" <packrat.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
>
> > > That's a new one on me. What are the wrong and right kinds of
> grease?
> >
> > GP, graphite and lithium are three common greases each with
> applications where
> > they produce better or worse results. GP is entirely petroleum-based,
> graphite
> > is used in high temperature areas, and lithium is used where
> resistance to
> > washout by water is needed.
>
>
> Good information -- thanks, Andrew

GP, by the way is "general purpose" a designation used by the military
and corresponds to what most know as "axle grease," but there are SAE
numeric designations that you will find in service manuals.

I used graphite grease on barrels and springs of the 40 mm Bofors; it
is just about the hardest stuff in NATO to get out of one's clothing.
Lithium grease smells fragrant, almost edible. Don't.
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLAIDUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:34 am
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On Mar 4, 9:58 pm, "DemoDisk" <pack... DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote:
> I paid a mechanic to install replacement axles I bought for my 93
> Sentra. On the driver's side now, you can hear a small "whistle" or
> singing noise. It comes and goes, but I worry that he didn't follow spec
> and there will be a problem.
>
> And it isn't bcz the car is happy, no. : )  I just want to know what
> might cause this noise.
>
> Thanks,
> JPM

Same here...my mechanic and I went road testing...he asked me if I
have a roof rack on top... YUP! Suggested I cap the tubes that form
the removeable roof rack...crutch tips dfixed it....no more sounds!
Hope your's is that simple!
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:21 am
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"Mikie" <mcosita999.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 4, 9:58 pm, "DemoDisk" <pack....TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote:
> I paid a mechanic to install replacement axles I bought for my 93
> Sentra. On the driver's side now, you can hear a small "whistle" or
> singing noise. It comes and goes, but I worry that he didn't follow
spec
> and there will be a problem.
>
> And it isn't bcz the car is happy, no. : ) I just want to know what
> might cause this noise.
>
> Thanks,
> JPM

Same here...my mechanic and I went road testing...he asked me if I
have a roof rack on top... YUP! Suggested I cap the tubes that form
the removeable roof rack...crutch tips dfixed it....no more sounds!
Hope your's is that simple!


Thanks, Mikie. No, this noise -- and *what a noise* is treated by this
thread at NissanForums.com. The OP describes the same symptoms pretty
much. I don't know if it's dangerous, but it's sure embarassing!

JPM
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:40 am
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"Mikie" <mcosita999.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 4, 9:58 pm, "DemoDisk" <pack....TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote:
> I paid a mechanic to install replacement axles I bought for my 93
> Sentra. On the driver's side now, you can hear a small "whistle" or
> singing noise. It comes and goes, but I worry that he didn't follow
spec
> and there will be a problem.
>
> And it isn't bcz the car is happy, no. : ) I just want to know what
> might cause this noise.
>
> Thanks,
> JPM

Same here...my mechanic and I went road testing...he asked me if I
have a roof rack on top... YUP! Suggested I cap the tubes that form
the removeable roof rack...crutch tips dfixed it....no more sounds!
Hope your's is that simple!




Oops, forgot to add the link, sorry!

Thanks, Mikie. No, this noise -- and *what a noise* is treated by this
thread at NissanForums.com.

http://www.NissanForums.com/b13-91-94-chassis/93051-sound-wheel-area.html

The OP describes the same symptoms pretty much. I don't know if it's
dangerous, but it's sure embarassing!

JPM
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:55 pm
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The wrong grease I used was Aeroshell No. 2 grease. I used it in the
transfer case oil seals for the fron and rear propeller shafts flanges,
in a Nissan Patrol. After a week or two, the squeal was embarrassing,
When I took removed the flanges, I saw that the grease was completely
dry and that the oil seals had made grooves on the flanges.

I have used Kendall high temp No. 2 grease (blue) with excellent results
so far.

Good luck!

DemoDisk wrote:
> "Mikie" <mcosita999.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:b9b3a7be-3d81-4cc4-b2ef-be6a40ecb9f3@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 4, 9:58 pm, "DemoDisk" <pack....TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>I paid a mechanic to install replacement axles I bought for my 93
>>Sentra. On the driver's side now, you can hear a small "whistle" or
>>singing noise. It comes and goes, but I worry that he didn't follow
>
> spec
>
>>and there will be a problem.
>>
>>And it isn't bcz the car is happy, no. : ) I just want to know what
>>might cause this noise.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>JPM
>
>
> Same here...my mechanic and I went road testing...he asked me if I
> have a roof rack on top... YUP! Suggested I cap the tubes that form
> the removeable roof rack...crutch tips dfixed it....no more sounds!
> Hope your's is that simple!
>
>
>
>
> Oops, forgot to add the link, sorry!
>
> Thanks, Mikie. No, this noise -- and *what a noise* is treated by this
> thread at NissanForums.com.
>
> http://www.NissanForums.com/b13-91-94-chassis/93051-sound-wheel-area.html
>
> The OP describes the same symptoms pretty much. I don't know if it's
> dangerous, but it's sure embarassing!
>
> JPM
>
>
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