Anti-Freeze leak

"Steve W." <csr684NOT DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> johncjr60 wrote:
>> I have a 1996 chevy 1/2 ton pickup that is leaking antifreeze from under
>> the
>> passenger side dash board. There is no leaking outside in the engine
>> compartment just inside under the dash. Does anyone know what's going on
>> and
>> how to fix it? Thanks John
>>
>
> Heater core or connection to it.
>
> Remove and replace is the best solution.
>
> --
> Steve W.
> Near Cooperstown, New York

Heater core.
Dmax
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Heater Core for a fact. I had a 1998 1-ton that went through 6 heater cores
in a little over two years. Thank goodness my mechanic replaced them for
free as they never made it out of warranty and he could not understand what
was going on. The last year I had the truck I had radiator problems and
replaced it with an oversized one and had no more heater core trouble.



"johncjr60" <u42343@uwe> wrote in message news:819877b6e72bf@uwe...
>I have a 1996 chevy 1/2 ton pickup that is leaking antifreeze from under
>the
> passenger side dash board. There is no leaking outside in the engine
> compartment just inside under the dash. Does anyone know what's going on
> and
> how to fix it? Thanks John
>
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Is your antifreeze Dex Cool? Then read this:

GM settles class-action suit
GM General Motors

Posted: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 at 5:58 p.m.

(AP) -- General Motors has agreed to settle a series of class-action
lawsuits claiming a faulty engine coolant damaged thousands of customer
vehicles.

Under the settlement, GM would reimburse class members between 50 and
800 dollars for repairs linked to Dex-Cool, which GM used in cars and
trucks beginning in 1995.

The total cost to GM will depend on the number of customers claiming
damages. But the plaintiffs' attorneys say the price tag could reach the
hundreds of millions of dollars.

A GM spokesman says the company isn't admitting any wrongdoing, but is
settling the case to cut down on legal bills.

(Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

Jon


"johncjr60" <u42343@uwe> wrote in message news:819877b6e72bf@uwe...
>I have a 1996 chevy 1/2 ton pickup that is leaking antifreeze from under
>the
> passenger side dash board. There is no leaking outside in the engine
> compartment just inside under the dash. Does anyone know what's going on
> and
> how to fix it? Thanks John
>
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"Jon" <jonkunkel RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Is your antifreeze Dex Cool? Then read this:
>

Why???
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Jon wrote:
> Is your antifreeze Dex Cool? Then read this:
>
> GM settles class-action suit
> GM General Motors
>
> Posted: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 at 5:58 p.m.
>
> (AP) -- General Motors has agreed to settle a series of class-action
> lawsuits claiming a faulty engine coolant damaged thousands of customer
> vehicles.
>
> Under the settlement, GM would reimburse class members between 50 and
> 800 dollars for repairs linked to Dex-Cool, which GM used in cars and
> trucks beginning in 1995.
>
> The total cost to GM will depend on the number of customers claiming
> damages. But the plaintiffs' attorneys say the price tag could reach the
> hundreds of millions of dollars.
>
> A GM spokesman says the company isn't admitting any wrongdoing, but is
> settling the case to cut down on legal bills.
>
> (Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
>
> Jon
>
>
> "johncjr60" <u42343@uwe> wrote in message news:819877b6e72bf@uwe...
>> I have a 1996 chevy 1/2 ton pickup that is leaking antifreeze from
>> under the
>> passenger side dash board. There is no leaking outside in the engine
>> compartment just inside under the dash. Does anyone know what's going
>> on and
>> how to fix it? Thanks John
>>
>
My concern is this.... Is the Dealer going to put DEX-COLL back into the
Vehicle that WAS damaged BY DEX-COOL?


Nice to see that all those HOT SHOT MECHANICS here now Know they Were
Wrong with They Sided with GM and SAID FAULTY GASKET ... And Said to BUY
a Certain companies OVERLY PRICED gaskets to cure the problem and when
it leaked again ,and Blamed it on the SHADE TREE MECHANIC who did the
Repair JOB.

REMEMBER the GOOD OLD GREEN STUFF , My 1989 S10 STILL Has the Same old
GREEN STUFF that was in it When I bought the Truck NEW with 8 miles on it
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Hairy wrote:
> "Jon" <jonkunkel.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:8eydnX5uFZtjhG3anZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Is your antifreeze Dex Cool? Then read this:
>>
>
> Why???
>
>
GM will PAY for your Repairs . REFUND your Money. And Why did you
cut off the rest of the post .
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First Tom, payment will be made to members of the CLASS.
those who were party to the suit. Not some one who just happens along after
the fact.
And the gasket WAS a bad design.
The new design solved that particular problem.
Get a grip guy, no one who didn't know of the suit is a party to the suit or
a member of the CLASS.
Jesus,
JR

"tom" <tom.RemoveThis@blowfish.us> wrote in message
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> Jon wrote:
>> Is your antifreeze Dex Cool? Then read this:
>>
>> GM settles class-action suit
>> GM General Motors
>>
>> Posted: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 at 5:58 p.m.
>>
>> (AP) -- General Motors has agreed to settle a series of class-action
>> lawsuits claiming a faulty engine coolant damaged thousands of customer
>> vehicles.
>>
>> Under the settlement, GM would reimburse class members between 50 and
>> 800 dollars for repairs linked to Dex-Cool, which GM used in cars and
>> trucks beginning in 1995.
>>
>> The total cost to GM will depend on the number of customers claiming
>> damages. But the plaintiffs' attorneys say the price tag could reach the
>> hundreds of millions of dollars.
>>
>> A GM spokesman says the company isn't admitting any wrongdoing, but is
>> settling the case to cut down on legal bills.
>>
>> (Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>> "johncjr60" <u42343@uwe> wrote in message news:819877b6e72bf@uwe...
>>> I have a 1996 chevy 1/2 ton pickup that is leaking antifreeze from under
>>> the
>>> passenger side dash board. There is no leaking outside in the engine
>>> compartment just inside under the dash. Does anyone know what's going
>>> on and
>>> how to fix it? Thanks John
>>>
>>
> My concern is this.... Is the Dealer going to put DEX-COLL back into the
> Vehicle that WAS damaged BY DEX-COOL?
>
>
> Nice to see that all those HOT SHOT MECHANICS here now Know they Were
> Wrong with They Sided with GM and SAID FAULTY GASKET ... And Said to BUY a
> Certain companies OVERLY PRICED gaskets to cure the problem and when it
> leaked again ,and Blamed it on the SHADE TREE MECHANIC who did the Repair
> JOB.
>
> REMEMBER the GOOD OLD GREEN STUFF , My 1989 S10 STILL Has the Same old
> GREEN STUFF that was in it When I bought the Truck NEW with 8 miles on it
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JR wrote:
> First Tom, payment will be made to members of the CLASS.
> those who were party to the suit. Not some one who just happens along after
> the fact.

I received money for Repairs made and I was Not a member of a Class
suit

> And the gasket WAS a bad design.


You telling me the Designed og Every Gasket was Wrong? V6's 4's V8's




> The new design solved that particular problem.


So the Gasket Design Was the Reason That Dex-cool Ate thru all of Them
Gaskets But Preston ( The Green Stuff) Does not eat thru those Same
Gaskets .


> Get a grip guy, no one who didn't know of the suit is a party to the suit or
> a member of the CLASS.
> Jesus,
> JR
>
> "tom" <tom.DeleteThis@blowfish.us> wrote in message
> news:SPXHj.8883$Rq1.4398@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> Jon wrote:
>>> Is your antifreeze Dex Cool? Then read this:
>>>
>>> GM settles class-action suit
>>> GM General Motors
>>>
>>> Posted: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 at 5:58 p.m.
>>>
>>> (AP) -- General Motors has agreed to settle a series of class-action
>>> lawsuits claiming a faulty engine coolant damaged thousands of customer
>>> vehicles.
>>>
>>> Under the settlement, GM would reimburse class members between 50 and
>>> 800 dollars for repairs linked to Dex-Cool, which GM used in cars and
>>> trucks beginning in 1995.
>>>
>>> The total cost to GM will depend on the number of customers claiming
>>> damages. But the plaintiffs' attorneys say the price tag could reach the
>>> hundreds of millions of dollars.
>>>
>>> A GM spokesman says the company isn't admitting any wrongdoing, but is
>>> settling the case to cut down on legal bills.
>>>
>>> (Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>> "johncjr60" <u42343@uwe> wrote in message news:819877b6e72bf@uwe...
>>>> I have a 1996 chevy 1/2 ton pickup that is leaking antifreeze from under
>>>> the
>>>> passenger side dash board. There is no leaking outside in the engine
>>>> compartment just inside under the dash. Does anyone know what's going
>>>> on and
>>>> how to fix it? Thanks John
>>>>
>> My concern is this.... Is the Dealer going to put DEX-COLL back into the
>> Vehicle that WAS damaged BY DEX-COOL?
>>
>>
>> Nice to see that all those HOT SHOT MECHANICS here now Know they Were
>> Wrong with They Sided with GM and SAID FAULTY GASKET ... And Said to BUY a
>> Certain companies OVERLY PRICED gaskets to cure the problem and when it
>> leaked again ,and Blamed it on the SHADE TREE MECHANIC who did the Repair
>> JOB.
>>
>> REMEMBER the GOOD OLD GREEN STUFF , My 1989 S10 STILL Has the Same old
>> GREEN STUFF that was in it When I bought the Truck NEW with 8 miles on it
>
>
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"tom" <tom.DeleteThis@blowfish.us> wrote in message
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> JR wrote:
>> First Tom, payment will be made to members of the CLASS.
>> those who were party to the suit. Not some one who just happens along
>> after the fact.
>
> I received money for Repairs made and I was Not a member of a Class
> suit

Bullshit. What repairs? In detail?

>> And the gasket WAS a bad design.
>
>
> You telling me the Designed og Every Gasket was Wrong? V6's 4's V8's

No Just the v-8's & v-6's intake manifold gasket.

>
>
>
>
>> The new design solved that particular problem.
>
>
> So the Gasket Design Was the Reason That Dex-cool Ate thru all of Them
> Gaskets But Preston ( The Green Stuff) Does not eat thru those Same
> Gaskets .

The gaskets leaked regardless of the anti freeze used.
Blowfish.us indeed.


>
>
>> Get a grip guy, no one who didn't know of the suit is a party to the suit
>> or a member of the CLASS.
>> Jesus,
>> JR
>>
>> "tom" <tom.DeleteThis@blowfish.us> wrote in message
>> news:SPXHj.8883$Rq1.4398@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>> Jon wrote:
>>>> Is your antifreeze Dex Cool? Then read this:
>>>>
>>>> GM settles class-action suit
>>>> GM General Motors
>>>>
>>>> Posted: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 at 5:58 p.m.
>>>>
>>>> (AP) -- General Motors has agreed to settle a series of class-action
>>>> lawsuits claiming a faulty engine coolant damaged thousands of customer
>>>> vehicles.
>>>>
>>>> Under the settlement, GM would reimburse class members between 50 and
>>>> 800 dollars for repairs linked to Dex-Cool, which GM used in cars and
>>>> trucks beginning in 1995.
>>>>
>>>> The total cost to GM will depend on the number of customers claiming
>>>> damages. But the plaintiffs' attorneys say the price tag could reach
>>>> the
>>>> hundreds of millions of dollars.
>>>>
>>>> A GM spokesman says the company isn't admitting any wrongdoing, but is
>>>> settling the case to cut down on legal bills.
>>>>
>>>> (Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
>>>>
>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "johncjr60" <u42343@uwe> wrote in message news:819877b6e72bf@uwe...
>>>>> I have a 1996 chevy 1/2 ton pickup that is leaking antifreeze from
>>>>> under the
>>>>> passenger side dash board. There is no leaking outside in the engine
>>>>> compartment just inside under the dash. Does anyone know what's going
>>>>> on and
>>>>> how to fix it? Thanks John
>>>>>
>>> My concern is this.... Is the Dealer going to put DEX-COLL back into the
>>> Vehicle that WAS damaged BY DEX-COOL?
>>>
>>>
>>> Nice to see that all those HOT SHOT MECHANICS here now Know they Were
>>> Wrong with They Sided with GM and SAID FAULTY GASKET ... And Said to BUY
>>> a Certain companies OVERLY PRICED gaskets to cure the problem and when
>>> it leaked again ,and Blamed it on the SHADE TREE MECHANIC who did the
>>> Repair JOB.
>>>
>>> REMEMBER the GOOD OLD GREEN STUFF , My 1989 S10 STILL Has the Same old
>>> GREEN STUFF that was in it When I bought the Truck NEW with 8 miles on
>>> it
>>
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In article <SPXHj.8883$Rq1.4398@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
tom <tom DeleteThis @blowfish.us> wrote:

> Jon wrote:
> > Is your antifreeze Dex Cool? Then read this:
> >
> > GM settles class-action suit
> > GM General Motors
> >
> > Posted: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 at 5:58 p.m.
> >
> > (AP) -- General Motors has agreed to settle a series of class-action
> > lawsuits claiming a faulty engine coolant damaged thousands of customer
> > vehicles.
> >
> > Under the settlement, GM would reimburse class members between 50 and
> > 800 dollars for repairs linked to Dex-Cool, which GM used in cars and
> > trucks beginning in 1995.
> >
> > The total cost to GM will depend on the number of customers claiming
> > damages. But the plaintiffs' attorneys say the price tag could reach the
> > hundreds of millions of dollars.
> >
> > A GM spokesman says the company isn't admitting any wrongdoing, but is
> > settling the case to cut down on legal bills.
> >
> > (Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
> > "johncjr60" <u42343@uwe> wrote in message news:819877b6e72bf@uwe...
> >> I have a 1996 chevy 1/2 ton pickup that is leaking antifreeze from
> >> under the
> >> passenger side dash board. There is no leaking outside in the engine
> >> compartment just inside under the dash. Does anyone know what's going
> >> on and
> >> how to fix it? Thanks John
> >>
> >
> My concern is this.... Is the Dealer going to put DEX-COLL back into the
> Vehicle that WAS damaged BY DEX-COOL?

What proof do you have that this truck was damaged by DexCool?
This appears to be a heater core leak, a failure not even mentioned in
the law suit.

> Nice to see that all those HOT SHOT MECHANICS here now Know they Were
> Wrong with They Sided with GM and SAID FAULTY GASKET ...

Even though it _was_ faulty gaskets.
Your lack of comprehension doesn't make it different.

> And Said to BUY
> a Certain companies OVERLY PRICED gaskets to cure the problem and when
> it leaked again ,

Haven't had one leak again after dozens and dozens of repairs.

> and Blamed it on the SHADE TREE MECHANIC who did the
> Repair JOB.

Cite?

> REMEMBER the GOOD OLD GREEN STUFF , My 1989 S10 STILL Has the Same old
> GREEN STUFF that was in it When I bought the Truck NEW with 8 miles on it

1) Your 89 S-10 didn't come equipped with the style of gaskets in
question.

2) Plenty of vehicles named in the suit that were switched over to "the
GOOD OLD GREEN STUFF" developed leaks also.

3) Leaving the same coolant in for 19 years makes you some kind of
stupid.

4) Wanna take a guess how many heater cores leaked in 80s S-10s and
Blazers that came with "the GOOD OLD GREEN STUFF?"
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In article <Vh%Hj.3598$p24.128@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>,
tom <tom.RemoveThis@blowfish.us> wrote:

> JR wrote:
> > First Tom, payment will be made to members of the CLASS.
> > those who were party to the suit. Not some one who just happens along after
> > the fact.
>
> I received money for Repairs made and I was Not a member of a Class
> suit

WOW, that was quick.
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In article <Vh%Hj.3598$p24.128@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>,
tom <tom.RemoveThis@blowfish.us> wrote:

> JR wrote:
> > First Tom, payment will be made to members of the CLASS.
> > those who were party to the suit. Not some one who just happens along after
> > the fact.
>
> I received money for Repairs made and I was Not a member of a Class
> suit
>
> > And the gasket WAS a bad design.
>
>
> You telling me the Designed og Every Gasket was Wrong? V6's 4's V8's

That _IS_ the pattern failure.
(4 cylinder engines didn't use this style of gasket)

>
>
>
> > The new design solved that particular problem.
>
>
> So the Gasket Design Was the Reason That Dex-cool Ate thru all of Them
> Gaskets

Your version, not necessarily anyone else's.

> But Preston ( The Green Stuff) Does not eat thru those Same
> Gaskets .

Your version, not necessarily anyone else's.

NOTHING got "ate thru." The nylon framework of the gaskets fractured
due to shear forces, once fractured, the sealing component could shift
allowing coolant to leak.
The mechanics of the failure is obvious to anyone who has actually
looked at a set of the failed gaskets.
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"JR" <racmsc.RemoveThis@epix.net> wrote in message
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> First Tom, payment will be made to members of the CLASS.

Correct

> those who were party to the suit. Not some one who just happens along
> after the fact.

Incorrect. In most class action suits, you are part of the "class" if you
meet the specifications of the class, unless you specifically, and in
writing, remove yourself from the class within the time period specified in
the agreement. Usually done if you intend to sue under the unique merits of
your own particular circumstances.

> And the gasket WAS a bad design.
> The new design solved that particular problem.
> Get a grip guy, no one who didn't know of the suit is a party to the suit
> or a member of the CLASS.

Incorrect again. For instance, I am a pary of the class to the "Class
Action" lawsuit involving the major credit card companies collecting fees
illegally for money conversions. I had no knowledge of the suit until I
received the paperwork to file a claim from the legal firm hired by the CC
companies, as part of the settlement, to inform all members of the "class"
how to submit a claim.

And yes, I did check to ensure it was all legitimate before responding.


As for this "class action" suit, I went the GM webpage, and found the
informatin/forms needed to make a claim for my mothers Chevy Venture van
(Class "A" in the suit). I had no knowledge of the suit before reading
about the settlement here in this newsgroup a few days ago.


John

> Jesus,
> JR
>
> "tom" <tom.RemoveThis@blowfish.us> wrote in message
> news:SPXHj.8883$Rq1.4398@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> Jon wrote:
>>> Is your antifreeze Dex Cool? Then read this:
>>>
>>> GM settles class-action suit
>>> GM General Motors
>>>
>>> Posted: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 at 5:58 p.m.
>>>
>>> (AP) -- General Motors has agreed to settle a series of class-action
>>> lawsuits claiming a faulty engine coolant damaged thousands of customer
>>> vehicles.
>>>
>>> Under the settlement, GM would reimburse class members between 50 and
>>> 800 dollars for repairs linked to Dex-Cool, which GM used in cars and
>>> trucks beginning in 1995.
>>>
>>> The total cost to GM will depend on the number of customers claiming
>>> damages. But the plaintiffs' attorneys say the price tag could reach the
>>> hundreds of millions of dollars.
>>>
>>> A GM spokesman says the company isn't admitting any wrongdoing, but is
>>> settling the case to cut down on legal bills.
>>>
>>> (Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>> "johncjr60" <u42343@uwe> wrote in message news:819877b6e72bf@uwe...
>>>> I have a 1996 chevy 1/2 ton pickup that is leaking antifreeze from
>>>> under the
>>>> passenger side dash board. There is no leaking outside in the engine
>>>> compartment just inside under the dash. Does anyone know what's going
>>>> on and
>>>> how to fix it? Thanks John
>>>>
>>>
>> My concern is this.... Is the Dealer going to put DEX-COLL back into the
>> Vehicle that WAS damaged BY DEX-COOL?
>>
>>
>> Nice to see that all those HOT SHOT MECHANICS here now Know they Were
>> Wrong with They Sided with GM and SAID FAULTY GASKET ... And Said to BUY
>> a Certain companies OVERLY PRICED gaskets to cure the problem and when it
>> leaked again ,and Blamed it on the SHADE TREE MECHANIC who did the
>> Repair JOB.
>>
>> REMEMBER the GOOD OLD GREEN STUFF , My 1989 S10 STILL Has the Same old
>> GREEN STUFF that was in it When I bought the Truck NEW with 8 miles on it
>
>
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