Advice to Explorer Drivers

In article <dc6u545gdr0g023kcpa73el7q700360qqt DeleteThis @4ax.com>,
Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

> In message
> <alangbaker-A5E56E.18440422062008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]>, Alan
> Baker <alangbaker DeleteThis @telus.net> wrote:
>
> >> >You make it clear that you're a danger to yourself and others while
> >> >driving, yes.
> >>
> >> This is a mirror-perfect reflection of the prevailing attitude in our
> >> society. Notice it's the guy in the SUV who is the "danger," not the
> >> little shithead in the econobox who SPEEDS UP TO BLOCK A LANE CHANGE.
> >
> >I never said anything about the little shithead.
>
> Well, here's your chance. How do you feel about someone who
> deliberately speeds up to block a lane change?

I think it's stupid and dangerous.

>
> >But the little shithead didn't come in here and brag about deliberately
> >doing something stupid and dangerous.
>
> So do you believe that the OP should have been a JLEDI and backed off
> instead of standing his ground?

I think the original poster shouldn't have tried to complete a lane
change when the space became insufficient. Because the circumstances
don't matter in determining whether the maneuver was safe or not.

>
> >What I am appalled by is that we've come so far in our society that
> >anyone in here would applaud someone knowingly and deliberately
> >proceeding with a lane change that has become unsafe.
>
> As I said in my other post, I don't know whom to applaud. But, unlike
> you, I don't know whom to denounce, either.

I do: both, but the original poster more. It's only an assumption that
the other driver was acting deliberately.

Almost any one of us should know from experience that most people aren't
aware enough of what is going on around them to act deliberately most of
the time.

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"Alexander Rogge" <a_rogge.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I see this behaviour sometimes, and I do not understand it. The drivers
> that try this speeding-up nonsense are usually in the passing lane but
> not passing anybody. They block traffic by driving at a slow speed or
> at the same speed as the driver in the right lane, until somebody tries
> to pull in front of them. Then they seem to be in a big hurry to
> accelerate, and tailgate anybody who gets in front of them, even trying
> to undertake the passing driver.

This is because they want to *win.* Never mind that there are 27 billion
cars in front of them which puts them in 27 billion and 1th place. This is
just like the people who speed up to get to the red light--the one who gets
there first wins. They use more gas, put more wear on the car, and probably
have a lot more incidents and pay more for insurance so I'm not sure what
they think they are winning.
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In article <2lav54prdge9ofp543fjbehouggdv9fhch RemoveThis @4ax.com>,
Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

> In message
> <alangbaker-0C63F3.00522623062008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]>, Alan
> Baker <alangbaker RemoveThis @telus.net> wrote:
>
> >> >What I am appalled by is that we've come so far in our society that
> >> >anyone in here would applaud someone knowingly and deliberately
> >> >proceeding with a lane change that has become unsafe.
> >>
> >> As I said in my other post, I don't know whom to applaud. But, unlike
> >> you, I don't know whom to denounce, either.
> >
> >I do: both, but the original poster more. It's only an assumption that
> >the other driver was acting deliberately.
>
> So you would still denounce the econobox driver even if he were
> keeping a steady course and speed (one of the possible scenarios I
> outlined elsewhere)?

I'm not going to engage in discussing endless hypotheticals.

It's really quite simple: stating that you'll continue a lane change in
the face of having the space you were planning to move into gone is
stupid. Actually deliberately doing so is stupid and dangerous.

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'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
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In article <j1l064la445lbtsv0s2evlvqks25hnnhle.RemoveThis@4ax.com>,
Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> In message
> <alangbaker-3E532C.08045523062008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]>, Alan
> Baker <alangbaker.RemoveThis@telus.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <2lav54prdge9ofp543fjbehouggdv9fhch.RemoveThis@4ax.com>,
> > Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In message
> >> <alangbaker-0C63F3.00522623062008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]>, Alan
> >> Baker <alangbaker.RemoveThis@telus.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> >What I am appalled by is that we've come so far in our society that
> >> >> >anyone in here would applaud someone knowingly and deliberately
> >> >> >proceeding with a lane change that has become unsafe.
> >> >>
> >> >> As I said in my other post, I don't know whom to applaud. But, unlike
> >> >> you, I don't know whom to denounce, either.
> >> >
> >> >I do: both, but the original poster more. It's only an assumption that
> >> >the other driver was acting deliberately.
> >>
> >> So you would still denounce the econobox driver even if he were
> >> keeping a steady course and speed (one of the possible scenarios I
> >> outlined elsewhere)?
> >
> >I'm not going to engage in discussing endless hypotheticals.
>
> Why not?
>
> Without solid facts about who did what, that's all we CAN do - either
> that, or just drop the topic.

We have solid facts about the original poster's actions.

And unless he lied, his actions were reckless driving, at the least.

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"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)
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In article <vaadnRxk478mxMLVnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d RemoveThis @comcast.com>,
Jack <baron58y RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

> Alan Baker wrote:
>
>
> > You make it clear that you're a danger to yourself and others....
>
>
> See post on 1-10-08 by C. E. White, entitled "Advice to Explorer
> Drivers," and un-knot your knickers. I doubt Explorer drivers are the
> only ones who exhibit the traits he mentioned, or the ones I parodied.
>
> Blondes with great big SUV's and itty bitty cell phones, on the other
> hand....
>
>
> Jack

I'm suppose to know to connect a post made in June with a most made in
January?

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'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
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> So next time you see someone "racing to the red light," consider that
> they may be thinking several moves ahead.

Another reason for accelerating towards a red light is because if nobody
is sitting on the sensor at the intersection, that side of the street
may be skipped from changing to the green signal. Some Sloths get
caught because they roll over the sensor and park in the intersection.
They don't get a green signal and become frustrated, some eventually
going through the red and others waiting until somebody pulls up behind
them and trips the sensor.
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In article <70v164tdda6nopo25pv99ba309v93nusbf.RemoveThis@4ax.com>,
Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> In message
> <alangbaker-57C5EA.20333423062008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]>, Alan
> Baker <alangbaker.RemoveThis@telus.net> wrote:
>
> >> >I'm not going to engage in discussing endless hypotheticals.
> >>
> >> Why not?
> >>
> >> Without solid facts about who did what, that's all we CAN do - either
> >> that, or just drop the topic.
> >
> >We have solid facts about the original poster's actions.
>
> No, we don't.
>
> For all we know, he made the whole thng up.

Continue to be dense about this if you want.

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"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
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'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
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Jack <jack_hallett.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in
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> When I activate my turn signal in order to change lanes, it is
> an announcement, not merely of my intention--and it is never a
> request for permission--but of an event that WILL take place
> very shortly. When you speed up in an effort to block my lane
> change, be advised I do not intimidate easily. You will be
> required to follow through on your pretense and trade paint, at
> least, if you wish to change my mind. Do I make myself clear?

Yes. You're clearly painted yourself as an idiot.

Well done.
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