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bruce

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 5:58 am
Post subject: A3 Motor Swap options
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What body lines will an A3 motor and transmission swap into?

I've driven A1 and A2 cars for years, but now I have my first A3 body
car that I just crashed and have a strong, healthy motor and
transmission with only 75K miles on them. This is a '98 Golf 2.0 5
speed. I know the A4 platform has a more modular set up so that the
motors swap pretty easily without a lot of updates to the wiring
harness. If I go looking for a body with a spent motor, I want to
know what I should be looking for. I'm also wondering what a well
maintained motor/transmission is worth. I and the first owner were
both attentive to maintenance, so this car runs well.

Can I swap into a similar A3 body? I'd think so, since there appears
to be only one non-GTI/non-diesl motor in the entire A3 run...
Can I swap into an A4 body car? Does model year come into play after
the introduction of the 1.8T?
Can I swap into a B series car? I'm less familiar with the
generations of the B series car..

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:44 pm
Post subject: Re: A3 Motor Swap options [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"bruce" <baxterb DeleteThis @bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:78784e8e-6036-45c6-9c74-a8b73f674da6@v3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> What body lines will an A3 motor and transmission swap into?
>
> I've driven A1 and A2 cars for years, but now I have my first A3 body
> car that I just crashed and have a strong, healthy motor and
> transmission with only 75K miles on them. This is a '98 Golf 2.0 5
> speed. I know the A4 platform has a more modular set up so that the
> motors swap pretty easily without a lot of updates to the wiring
> harness. If I go looking for a body with a spent motor, I want to
> know what I should be looking for. I'm also wondering what a well
> maintained motor/transmission is worth. I and the first owner were
> both attentive to maintenance, so this car runs well.

Just some educated guesses....

> Can I swap into a similar A3 body? I'd think so, since there appears
> to be only one non-GTI/non-diesl motor in the entire A3 run...

Actually Canadian models had a 1.8L available too but yes you should be able
to swap it into any A3 body. However do note that 1996 model year brought
on OBD diagnostics so a '96-up swap should be fine but a pre-96 A3 bodied
car might need some wiring changes so swap the ECU and wiring too. Most
emissions laws say that if it's a newer engine in an older car, the laws
pertaining to the newer engine are what applies at smog test time.

> Can I swap into an A4 body car?

I believe so. The A4 2.0 cars were the same engines as the A3 2.0 cars
except for some changes to the intake (I think).

>Does model year come into play after the introduction of the 1.8T?

Not sure about that.

> Can I swap into a B series car? I'm less familiar with the generations of
> the B series car..

The B4 (1995-1997 Passat came with the 2.0L as the standard engine) probably
yes. Probably goes for a B3 as well (wasn't the standard engine but the 2.0
16V was standard in B3s but that'd be a downgrade to put it into a B3..

B5 (1998) and up Passats, probably can't swap it in (not that I know of
anyway...don't think those ever came with that engine even overseas).

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dave AKA vwdoc1

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:23 am
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>> What body lines will an A3 motor and transmission swap into?

I am sure that someone could stick that powertrain into a VWAC Beetle.

>>
>> I've driven A1 and A2 cars for years, but now I have my first A3 body
>> car that I just crashed and have a strong, healthy motor and
>> transmission with only 75K miles on them. This is a '98 Golf 2.0 5
>> speed. I know the A4 platform has a more modular set up so that the
>> motors swap pretty easily without a lot of updates to the wiring
>> harness. If I go looking for a body with a spent motor, I want to
>> know what I should be looking for. I'm also wondering what a well
>> maintained motor/transmission is worth. I and the first owner were
>> both attentive to maintenance, so this car runs well.

Spent engines with good bodies are hard to find. I don't see too many VWs
with bad "non-interference" engines.
I see quite a few with bad 1.8t or V6 engines though here in Chicago. About
1 per week.


> Just some educated guesses....
>
>> Can I swap into a similar A3 body? I'd think so, since there appears
>> to be only one non-GTI/non-diesl motor in the entire A3 run...
>
> Actually Canadian models had a 1.8L available too but yes you should be
> able to swap it into any A3 body. However do note that 1996 model year
> brought on OBD diagnostics so a '96-up swap should be fine but a pre-96 A3
> bodied car might need some wiring changes so swap the ECU and wiring too.
> Most emissions laws say that if it's a newer engine in an older car, the
> laws pertaining to the newer engine are what applies at smog test time.

Does this also apply if the 1995 and older vehicles are exempt from emission
testing?

>
>> Can I swap into an A4 body car?
>
> I believe so. The A4 2.0 cars were the same engines as the A3 2.0 cars
> except for some changes to the intake (I think).

ABA in most of the 3rd & earlier 4th generation Golfs, AZG(?) in some later
ones with a coilpack, different water pump, accessories, etc.
Possibly doable, but why not install back into another similar year
Golf/Jetta?
You might even be able to install it in a 2nd generation Golf/Jetta too.

>
>>Does model year come into play after the introduction of the 1.8T?
>
> Not sure about that.
>
>> Can I swap into a B series car? I'm less familiar with the generations
>> of the B series car..
>
> The B4 (1995-1997 Passat came with the 2.0L as the standard engine)
> probably yes. Probably goes for a B3 as well (wasn't the standard engine
> but the 2.0 16V was standard in B3s but that'd be a downgrade to put it
> into a B3..

Most of the B4s that I have seen have been VR6 equipped. Once in awhile I
will see the 2.0l or the diesel engine but that is rare. Wink
So it is easier to install your engine into the 2.0l B4 Passats.
But remember that the Passat will weigh quite a bit more than your Golf!
8^)

>
> B5 (1998) and up Passats, probably can't swap it in (not that I know of
> anyway...don't think those ever came with that engine even overseas).

Those B5s (1998 and up Passats) came with a longitudinal or inline engine
and not the transverse engine.

There is someone (In the vicinity of Framingham, MA.) that might be able to
use that engine in his Corrado. OR you might want to buy his Corrado to
stick that 2.0l engine into it. Wink

Just a thought!
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)
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