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Old Crow

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:51 pm
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A riding buddy of mine had somebody do the head gaskets on his '98 Ranger
V6. When he got it back, it idled high and the check engine light was on.
I looked it over and found an open vacuum port between the heads on the back
of the intake. Plugged it and his running problems are solved.
Then the next day he calls and his 4x4 is inop and his heater won't change
modes correctly. At the time I plugged the vac port off, I looked for the
hose that ought to be connected and couldn't find it.
So, on Christmas day I was over at his place and we checked out the truck
again. I found the vac line from the axle to the reservoir under the
battery, and traced the lines from there into the firewall near the heater.
I can't find a disconnected hose anywhere, and the Chilton's book he's got
is next to useless in this case. The only thing I haven't checked was
anything coming from the transfer case. I was dressed too nice to crawl
under it in the dirt the other day.
Anybody know where the vac line for the 4x4 goes from the intake?

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'87 FLTC 'Fugly'
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:55 am
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In article <gj681p$h7f$1@news.motzarella.org>,
"Old Crow" <walliscrow RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

> A riding buddy of mine had somebody do the head gaskets on his '98 Ranger
> V6. When he got it back, it idled high and the check engine light was on.
> I looked it over and found an open vacuum port between the heads on the back
> of the intake. Plugged it and his running problems are solved.
> Then the next day he calls and his 4x4 is inop and his heater won't change
> modes correctly. At the time I plugged the vac port off, I looked for the
> hose that ought to be connected and couldn't find it.
> So, on Christmas day I was over at his place and we checked out the truck
> again. I found the vac line from the axle to the reservoir under the
> battery, and traced the lines from there into the firewall near the heater.
> I can't find a disconnected hose anywhere, and the Chilton's book he's got
> is next to useless in this case. The only thing I haven't checked was
> anything coming from the transfer case. I was dressed too nice to crawl
> under it in the dirt the other day.
> Anybody know where the vac line for the 4x4 goes from the intake?

So I have the '99 Ranger and have been looking through my Haynes manual
- in case it is better than the Chilton one. It says that the thing
that does the 4X4 function is the transfer case. Both it and the
Chilton Manual tell me that the inputs to the transfer case are electric
and mechanical only - no reference to a vacuum line or input anywhere.

Not wanting to get slapped around too badly just now, can I ask whether
you are certain that there is a vacuum input to the transfer case? Are
you absolutely certain there is not an electric input that you have
unplugged? Or is the '98 really tat much different from the '99 Ranger?
The Haynes manual does talk a little bit about the electronic input to
the transfer case, with some photos, and if it helps I am willing to
risk prison for copyright violation by copying and making a *.pdf of the
relevant pages (5) for your info - if you cannot easily get a copy of
the Haynes manual where you are?

H.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:41 am
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"Rowbotth" <rowbotth.TakeThisOut@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
news:rowbotth-317FF0.11553828122008@news.newsgroupdirect.com...
> In article <gj681p$h7f$1@news.motzarella.org>,
> "Old Crow" <walliscrow.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A riding buddy of mine had somebody do the head gaskets on his '98 Ranger
>> V6. When he got it back, it idled high and the check engine light was
>> on.
>> I looked it over and found an open vacuum port between the heads on the
>> back
>> of the intake. Plugged it and his running problems are solved.
>> Then the next day he calls and his 4x4 is inop and his heater won't
>> change
>> modes correctly. At the time I plugged the vac port off, I looked for
>> the
>> hose that ought to be connected and couldn't find it.
>> So, on Christmas day I was over at his place and we checked out the truck
>> again. I found the vac line from the axle to the reservoir under the
>> battery, and traced the lines from there into the firewall near the
>> heater.
>> I can't find a disconnected hose anywhere, and the Chilton's book he's
>> got
>> is next to useless in this case. The only thing I haven't checked was
>> anything coming from the transfer case. I was dressed too nice to crawl
>> under it in the dirt the other day.
>> Anybody know where the vac line for the 4x4 goes from the intake?
>
> So I have the '99 Ranger and have been looking through my Haynes manual
> - in case it is better than the Chilton one. It says that the thing
> that does the 4X4 function is the transfer case. Both it and the
> Chilton Manual tell me that the inputs to the transfer case are electric
> and mechanical only - no reference to a vacuum line or input anywhere.
>
> Not wanting to get slapped around too badly just now, can I ask whether
> you are certain that there is a vacuum input to the transfer case? Are
> you absolutely certain there is not an electric input that you have
> unplugged? Or is the '98 really tat much different from the '99 Ranger?
> The Haynes manual does talk a little bit about the electronic input to
> the transfer case, with some photos, and if it helps I am willing to
> risk prison for copyright violation by copying and making a *.pdf of the
> relevant pages (5) for your info - if you cannot easily get a copy of
> the Haynes manual where you are?
>
> H.


Hell, no I ain't sure, that's why I asked. Smile
I worked for GM for 18 years and I know a lot about them, but not so much
about Fords. I do know this truck has vacuum hubs and they aren't getting
any vacuum. I also know he had an open vacuum connection on the engine. On
the S-10s there is a vacuum switch on the t/case that controls vacuum to the
front axle actuator. I don't know if the Ford has anything like that.
He took it back to the loser that he had do the heads and the guy just kinda
scratched his head and said he didn't know. I don't know either, but at
least I didn't pull it apart and put it back together without knowing.
Does your book have a pic of the vacuum routing for the front hubs? That's
what I really need. That and a dry floor so I can crawl underneath and get
a better look.

--
Old Crow
'82 FLTC 'Pearl'
'87 FLTC 'Fugly'
'61 F-100
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, SLOB#13, MAMBM
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:19 pm
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In article <gja9gq$5vd$1@news.motzarella.org>,
"Old Crow" <walliscrow RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Rowbotth" <rowbotth RemoveThis @telusplanet.net> wrote in message
> news:rowbotth-317FF0.11553828122008@news.newsgroupdirect.com...
> > In article <gj681p$h7f$1@news.motzarella.org>,
> > "Old Crow" <walliscrow RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> A riding buddy of mine had somebody do the head gaskets on his '98 Ranger
> >> V6. When he got it back, it idled high and the check engine light was
> >> on.
> >> I looked it over and found an open vacuum port between the heads on the
> >> back
> >> of the intake. Plugged it and his running problems are solved.
> >> Then the next day he calls and his 4x4 is inop and his heater won't
> >> change
> >> modes correctly. At the time I plugged the vac port off, I looked for
> >> the
> >> hose that ought to be connected and couldn't find it.
> >> So, on Christmas day I was over at his place and we checked out the truck
> >> again. I found the vac line from the axle to the reservoir under the
> >> battery, and traced the lines from there into the firewall near the
> >> heater.
> >> I can't find a disconnected hose anywhere, and the Chilton's book he's
> >> got
> >> is next to useless in this case. The only thing I haven't checked was
> >> anything coming from the transfer case. I was dressed too nice to crawl
> >> under it in the dirt the other day.
> >> Anybody know where the vac line for the 4x4 goes from the intake?
> >
> > So I have the '99 Ranger and have been looking through my Haynes manual
> > - in case it is better than the Chilton one. It says that the thing
> > that does the 4X4 function is the transfer case. Both it and the
> > Chilton Manual tell me that the inputs to the transfer case are electric
> > and mechanical only - no reference to a vacuum line or input anywhere.
> >
> > Not wanting to get slapped around too badly just now, can I ask whether
> > you are certain that there is a vacuum input to the transfer case? Are
> > you absolutely certain there is not an electric input that you have
> > unplugged? Or is the '98 really tat much different from the '99 Ranger?
> > The Haynes manual does talk a little bit about the electronic input to
> > the transfer case, with some photos, and if it helps I am willing to
> > risk prison for copyright violation by copying and making a *.pdf of the
> > relevant pages (5) for your info - if you cannot easily get a copy of
> > the Haynes manual where you are?
> >
> > H.
>
>
> Hell, no I ain't sure, that's why I asked. Smile
> I worked for GM for 18 years and I know a lot about them, but not so much
> about Fords. I do know this truck has vacuum hubs and they aren't getting
> any vacuum. I also know he had an open vacuum connection on the engine. On
> the S-10s there is a vacuum switch on the t/case that controls vacuum to the
> front axle actuator. I don't know if the Ford has anything like that.
> He took it back to the loser that he had do the heads and the guy just kinda
> scratched his head and said he didn't know. I don't know either, but at
> least I didn't pull it apart and put it back together without knowing.
> Does your book have a pic of the vacuum routing for the front hubs? That's
> what I really need. That and a dry floor so I can crawl underneath and get
> a better look.

Well, there are about three pages about the "Pulse Vacuum Hub Locks",
and there is a picture of the hub locks with what might be a vacuum line
at the top of the photo. Also it sounds like changing this thing is
about equivalent to open heart surgery for the complexity of special
tools required. However, if you are not changing the hub locks you
might find something in the description that you would find useful?
Maybe?

(And according to Haynes, the hub locks are the same for the 1998 and
1999 4WD Rangers, so the information appears to be relevant to you.)

If I want to email you, can I use the hotmail account that is shown on
your header? (Assuming you want this thing, that is...) I hope it is
not a dial-up connection, as the file may be big.

H.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:32 pm
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On Dec 29, 6:19 pm, Rowbotth <rowbo... DeleteThis @telusplanet.net> wrote:


if you dont mind I would really apreciate that info also, ive got a
2000 ranger with the same issue
thanks in advance
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:36 am
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"Rowbotth" <rowbotth.RemoveThis@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
news:rowbotth-59BDFC.16191629122008@news.newsgroupdirect.com...
> In article <gja9gq$5vd$1@news.motzarella.org>,
> "Old Crow" <walliscrow.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Rowbotth" <rowbotth.RemoveThis@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
>> news:rowbotth-317FF0.11553828122008@news.newsgroupdirect.com...
>> > In article <gj681p$h7f$1@news.motzarella.org>,
>> > "Old Crow" <walliscrow.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> A riding buddy of mine had somebody do the head gaskets on his '98
>> >> Ranger
>> >> V6. When he got it back, it idled high and the check engine light was
>> >> on.
>> >> I looked it over and found an open vacuum port between the heads on
>> >> the
>> >> back
>> >> of the intake. Plugged it and his running problems are solved.
>> >> Then the next day he calls and his 4x4 is inop and his heater won't
>> >> change
>> >> modes correctly. At the time I plugged the vac port off, I looked for
>> >> the
>> >> hose that ought to be connected and couldn't find it.
>> >> So, on Christmas day I was over at his place and we checked out the
>> >> truck
>> >> again. I found the vac line from the axle to the reservoir under the
>> >> battery, and traced the lines from there into the firewall near the
>> >> heater.
>> >> I can't find a disconnected hose anywhere, and the Chilton's book he's
>> >> got
>> >> is next to useless in this case. The only thing I haven't checked was
>> >> anything coming from the transfer case. I was dressed too nice to
>> >> crawl
>> >> under it in the dirt the other day.
>> >> Anybody know where the vac line for the 4x4 goes from the intake?
>> >
>> > So I have the '99 Ranger and have been looking through my Haynes manual
>> > - in case it is better than the Chilton one. It says that the thing
>> > that does the 4X4 function is the transfer case. Both it and the
>> > Chilton Manual tell me that the inputs to the transfer case are
>> > electric
>> > and mechanical only - no reference to a vacuum line or input anywhere.
>> >
>> > Not wanting to get slapped around too badly just now, can I ask whether
>> > you are certain that there is a vacuum input to the transfer case? Are
>> > you absolutely certain there is not an electric input that you have
>> > unplugged? Or is the '98 really tat much different from the '99
>> > Ranger?
>> > The Haynes manual does talk a little bit about the electronic input to
>> > the transfer case, with some photos, and if it helps I am willing to
>> > risk prison for copyright violation by copying and making a *.pdf of
>> > the
>> > relevant pages (5) for your info - if you cannot easily get a copy of
>> > the Haynes manual where you are?
>> >
>> > H.
>>
>>
>> Hell, no I ain't sure, that's why I asked. Smile
>> I worked for GM for 18 years and I know a lot about them, but not so much
>> about Fords. I do know this truck has vacuum hubs and they aren't
>> getting
>> any vacuum. I also know he had an open vacuum connection on the engine.
>> On
>> the S-10s there is a vacuum switch on the t/case that controls vacuum to
>> the
>> front axle actuator. I don't know if the Ford has anything like that.
>> He took it back to the loser that he had do the heads and the guy just
>> kinda
>> scratched his head and said he didn't know. I don't know either, but at
>> least I didn't pull it apart and put it back together without knowing.
>> Does your book have a pic of the vacuum routing for the front hubs?
>> That's
>> what I really need. That and a dry floor so I can crawl underneath and
>> get
>> a better look.
>
> Well, there are about three pages about the "Pulse Vacuum Hub Locks",
> and there is a picture of the hub locks with what might be a vacuum line
> at the top of the photo. Also it sounds like changing this thing is
> about equivalent to open heart surgery for the complexity of special
> tools required. However, if you are not changing the hub locks you
> might find something in the description that you would find useful?
> Maybe?
>
> (And according to Haynes, the hub locks are the same for the 1998 and
> 1999 4WD Rangers, so the information appears to be relevant to you.)
>
> If I want to email you, can I use the hotmail account that is shown on
> your header? (Assuming you want this thing, that is...) I hope it is
> not a dial-up connection, as the file may be big.
>
> H.


I gotta change that. Use walliscrow.RemoveThis@yahoo.com
I gave up on hotmail, just use it for IM. Thanks a lot.

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'87 FLTC 'Fugly'
'61 F-100
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:28 pm
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In article
<0a905960-7f47-4743-9577-46543335bec8.TakeThisOut@e10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>,
cracker_98.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com wrote:

> On Dec 29, 6:19 pm, Rowbotth <rowbo....TakeThisOut@telusplanet.net> wrote:
>
>
> if you dont mind I would really apreciate that info also, ive got a
> 2000 ranger with the same issue
> thanks in advance
> cracker_98.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com

Not at all.

According to my Haynes manual, though, the 2000 model Ranger was a
cross-over. Some had the pulse vacuum hub locks and some didn't. If
yours did, the information may be of use to you.

HR.
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In article <gjctji$mjj$1@news.motzarella.org>,
"Old Crow" <walliscrow.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Rowbotth" <rowbotth.TakeThisOut@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
> news:rowbotth-59BDFC.16191629122008@news.newsgroupdirect.com...
> > In article <gja9gq$5vd$1@news.motzarella.org>,
> > "Old Crow" <walliscrow.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Rowbotth" <rowbotth.TakeThisOut@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
> >> news:rowbotth-317FF0.11553828122008@news.newsgroupdirect.com...
> >> > In article <gj681p$h7f$1@news.motzarella.org>,
> >> > "Old Crow" <walliscrow.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> A riding buddy of mine had somebody do the head gaskets on his '98
> >> >> Ranger
> >> >> V6. When he got it back, it idled high and the check engine light was
> >> >> on.
> >> >> I looked it over and found an open vacuum port between the heads on
> >> >> the
> >> >> back
> >> >> of the intake. Plugged it and his running problems are solved.
> >> >> Then the next day he calls and his 4x4 is inop and his heater won't
> >> >> change
> >> >> modes correctly. At the time I plugged the vac port off, I looked for
> >> >> the
> >> >> hose that ought to be connected and couldn't find it.
> >> >> So, on Christmas day I was over at his place and we checked out the
> >> >> truck
> >> >> again. I found the vac line from the axle to the reservoir under the
> >> >> battery, and traced the lines from there into the firewall near the
> >> >> heater.
> >> >> I can't find a disconnected hose anywhere, and the Chilton's book he's
> >> >> got
> >> >> is next to useless in this case. The only thing I haven't checked was
> >> >> anything coming from the transfer case. I was dressed too nice to
> >> >> crawl
> >> >> under it in the dirt the other day.
> >> >> Anybody know where the vac line for the 4x4 goes from the intake?
> >> >
> >> > So I have the '99 Ranger and have been looking through my Haynes manual
> >> > - in case it is better than the Chilton one. It says that the thing
> >> > that does the 4X4 function is the transfer case. Both it and the
> >> > Chilton Manual tell me that the inputs to the transfer case are
> >> > electric
> >> > and mechanical only - no reference to a vacuum line or input anywhere.
> >> >
> >> > Not wanting to get slapped around too badly just now, can I ask whether
> >> > you are certain that there is a vacuum input to the transfer case? Are
> >> > you absolutely certain there is not an electric input that you have
> >> > unplugged? Or is the '98 really tat much different from the '99
> >> > Ranger?
> >> > The Haynes manual does talk a little bit about the electronic input to
> >> > the transfer case, with some photos, and if it helps I am willing to
> >> > risk prison for copyright violation by copying and making a *.pdf of
> >> > the
> >> > relevant pages (5) for your info - if you cannot easily get a copy of
> >> > the Haynes manual where you are?
> >> >
> >> > H.
> >>
> >>
> >> Hell, no I ain't sure, that's why I asked. Smile
> >> I worked for GM for 18 years and I know a lot about them, but not so much
> >> about Fords. I do know this truck has vacuum hubs and they aren't
> >> getting
> >> any vacuum. I also know he had an open vacuum connection on the engine.
> >> On
> >> the S-10s there is a vacuum switch on the t/case that controls vacuum to
> >> the
> >> front axle actuator. I don't know if the Ford has anything like that.
> >> He took it back to the loser that he had do the heads and the guy just
> >> kinda
> >> scratched his head and said he didn't know. I don't know either, but at
> >> least I didn't pull it apart and put it back together without knowing.
> >> Does your book have a pic of the vacuum routing for the front hubs?
> >> That's
> >> what I really need. That and a dry floor so I can crawl underneath and
> >> get
> >> a better look.
> >
> > Well, there are about three pages about the "Pulse Vacuum Hub Locks",
> > and there is a picture of the hub locks with what might be a vacuum line
> > at the top of the photo. Also it sounds like changing this thing is
> > about equivalent to open heart surgery for the complexity of special
> > tools required. However, if you are not changing the hub locks you
> > might find something in the description that you would find useful?
> > Maybe?
> >
> > (And according to Haynes, the hub locks are the same for the 1998 and
> > 1999 4WD Rangers, so the information appears to be relevant to you.)
> >
> > If I want to email you, can I use the hotmail account that is shown on
> > your header? (Assuming you want this thing, that is...) I hope it is
> > not a dial-up connection, as the file may be big.
> >
> > H.
>
>
> I gotta change that. Use walliscrow.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com
> I gave up on hotmail, just use it for IM. Thanks a lot.

This morning - after a good nights sleep so I was more alert and
conscious - I decided to go look at my truck and see what was going on
for myself. What I found was:

1) There are three lines connected to the inside of each front wheel.
Two face front; one faces rear.

2) I am pretty sure that the one heading toward the rear of the vehicle
is the hydraulic line with the brake fluid connection.

3) Of the two lines heading to the front of the Ranger from the top part
of the front wheel, it looks like on is electric and the other looks
like a hose - probably your vacuum line? (Picture your way entitled
"Inside Front Hub from Front".)

4) I tried to trace the two lines. One goes to a point immediately in
front of the tire and just inside the bumper and if you get on your back
you can see that it appears to plug into a receptacle. I'd bet that is
the electric control telling the hub to switch in and out of 4WD. The
other one - the hose- as far as I can tell seems to go to a manifold or
something that has cooling. This thing is located immediately below the
pulley that is the crankshaft at the front of the engine, and seems to
be mounted to the I-Beam or some other support structure? It has a
cooler and I cannot find any description nor a photo in either the
Chilton nor the Haynes manuals, but I see the vacuum lines heading for
it and wonder whether it might be related to the vacuum system? My
Ranger has the 4.0 litre V-6 with the standard 5-speed transmission and
A/C, and I don't know what that cooler would have to do with anything
else. The A/C rad seems to be in the main engine rad? Anyway, there is
a photo on its way to you of this thing, entitles "What"

I hope this helps. Good luck with the repairs. ( You will fond some
specs on the amount of vacuum required to switch the hub \s in and out
in the Haynes write-up.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:16 am
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"Rowbotth" <rowbotth.TakeThisOut@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
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> In article <gjctji$mjj$1@news.motzarella.org>,
> "Old Crow" <walliscrow.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Rowbotth" <rowbotth.TakeThisOut@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
>> news:rowbotth-59BDFC.16191629122008@news.newsgroupdirect.com...
>> > In article <gja9gq$5vd$1@news.motzarella.org>,
>> > "Old Crow" <walliscrow.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Rowbotth" <rowbotth.TakeThisOut@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:rowbotth-317FF0.11553828122008@news.newsgroupdirect.com...
>> >> > In article <gj681p$h7f$1@news.motzarella.org>,
>> >> > "Old Crow" <walliscrow.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> A riding buddy of mine had somebody do the head gaskets on his '98
>> >> >> Ranger
>> >> >> V6. When he got it back, it idled high and the check engine light
>> >> >> was
>> >> >> on.
>> >> >> I looked it over and found an open vacuum port between the heads on
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> back
>> >> >> of the intake. Plugged it and his running problems are solved.
>> >> >> Then the next day he calls and his 4x4 is inop and his heater won't
>> >> >> change
>> >> >> modes correctly. At the time I plugged the vac port off, I looked
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> hose that ought to be connected and couldn't find it.
>> >> >> So, on Christmas day I was over at his place and we checked out the
>> >> >> truck
>> >> >> again. I found the vac line from the axle to the reservoir under
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> battery, and traced the lines from there into the firewall near the
>> >> >> heater.
>> >> >> I can't find a disconnected hose anywhere, and the Chilton's book
>> >> >> he's
>> >> >> got
>> >> >> is next to useless in this case. The only thing I haven't checked
>> >> >> was
>> >> >> anything coming from the transfer case. I was dressed too nice to
>> >> >> crawl
>> >> >> under it in the dirt the other day.
>> >> >> Anybody know where the vac line for the 4x4 goes from the intake?
>> >> >
>> >> > So I have the '99 Ranger and have been looking through my Haynes
>> >> > manual
>> >> > - in case it is better than the Chilton one. It says that the thing
>> >> > that does the 4X4 function is the transfer case. Both it and the
>> >> > Chilton Manual tell me that the inputs to the transfer case are
>> >> > electric
>> >> > and mechanical only - no reference to a vacuum line or input
>> >> > anywhere.
>> >> >
>> >> > Not wanting to get slapped around too badly just now, can I ask
>> >> > whether
>> >> > you are certain that there is a vacuum input to the transfer case?
>> >> > Are
>> >> > you absolutely certain there is not an electric input that you have
>> >> > unplugged? Or is the '98 really tat much different from the '99
>> >> > Ranger?
>> >> > The Haynes manual does talk a little bit about the electronic input
>> >> > to
>> >> > the transfer case, with some photos, and if it helps I am willing to
>> >> > risk prison for copyright violation by copying and making a *.pdf of
>> >> > the
>> >> > relevant pages (5) for your info - if you cannot easily get a copy
>> >> > of
>> >> > the Haynes manual where you are?
>> >> >
>> >> > H.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hell, no I ain't sure, that's why I asked. Smile
>> >> I worked for GM for 18 years and I know a lot about them, but not so
>> >> much
>> >> about Fords. I do know this truck has vacuum hubs and they aren't
>> >> getting
>> >> any vacuum. I also know he had an open vacuum connection on the
>> >> engine.
>> >> On
>> >> the S-10s there is a vacuum switch on the t/case that controls vacuum
>> >> to
>> >> the
>> >> front axle actuator. I don't know if the Ford has anything like that.
>> >> He took it back to the loser that he had do the heads and the guy just
>> >> kinda
>> >> scratched his head and said he didn't know. I don't know either, but
>> >> at
>> >> least I didn't pull it apart and put it back together without knowing.
>> >> Does your book have a pic of the vacuum routing for the front hubs?
>> >> That's
>> >> what I really need. That and a dry floor so I can crawl underneath
>> >> and
>> >> get
>> >> a better look.
>> >
>> > Well, there are about three pages about the "Pulse Vacuum Hub Locks",
>> > and there is a picture of the hub locks with what might be a vacuum
>> > line
>> > at the top of the photo. Also it sounds like changing this thing is
>> > about equivalent to open heart surgery for the complexity of special
>> > tools required. However, if you are not changing the hub locks you
>> > might find something in the description that you would find useful?
>> > Maybe?
>> >
>> > (And according to Haynes, the hub locks are the same for the 1998 and
>> > 1999 4WD Rangers, so the information appears to be relevant to you.)
>> >
>> > If I want to email you, can I use the hotmail account that is shown on
>> > your header? (Assuming you want this thing, that is...) I hope it is
>> > not a dial-up connection, as the file may be big.
>> >
>> > H.
>>
>>
>> I gotta change that. Use walliscrow.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com
>> I gave up on hotmail, just use it for IM. Thanks a lot.
>
> This morning - after a good nights sleep so I was more alert and
> conscious - I decided to go look at my truck and see what was going on
> for myself. What I found was:
>
> 1) There are three lines connected to the inside of each front wheel.
> Two face front; one faces rear.
>
> 2) I am pretty sure that the one heading toward the rear of the vehicle
> is the hydraulic line with the brake fluid connection.
>
> 3) Of the two lines heading to the front of the Ranger from the top part
> of the front wheel, it looks like on is electric and the other looks
> like a hose - probably your vacuum line? (Picture your way entitled
> "Inside Front Hub from Front".)
>
> 4) I tried to trace the two lines. One goes to a point immediately in
> front of the tire and just inside the bumper and if you get on your back
> you can see that it appears to plug into a receptacle. I'd bet that is
> the electric control telling the hub to switch in and out of 4WD. The
> other one - the hose- as far as I can tell seems to go to a manifold or
> something that has cooling. This thing is located immediately below the
> pulley that is the crankshaft at the front of the engine, and seems to
> be mounted to the I-Beam or some other support structure? It has a
> cooler and I cannot find any description nor a photo in either the
> Chilton nor the Haynes manuals, but I see the vacuum lines heading for
> it and wonder whether it might be related to the vacuum system? My
> Ranger has the 4.0 litre V-6 with the standard 5-speed transmission and
> A/C, and I don't know what that cooler would have to do with anything
> else. The A/C rad seems to be in the main engine rad? Anyway, there is
> a photo on its way to you of this thing, entitles "What"
>
> I hope this helps. Good luck with the repairs. ( You will fond some
> specs on the amount of vacuum required to switch the hub \s in and out
> in the Haynes write-up.
>
> HR.


Sent you an email last night. Text seems to indicate a vacuum solonoid back
on the transfer case somewhere. I'm thinking that there should be a vacuum
supply line to that solonoid. and I'll bet that's what's unhooked. I'll
have to go crawl under the thing, I guess.

--
Old Crow
'82 FLTC 'Pearl'
'87 FLTC 'Fugly'
'61 F-100
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I’ve got a 98 Ranger as well, which I bought with inoperable 4x4. I
did a ton of research on the vac pulse system. I’ll try to summarize
what I learned.

1) The system is junk. It debuted in 98 & was phased out to a live
axle version for 2000 (2K was a mix/match year, could have either or).

2) Sometimes when the 4x4 won’t engage through normal use, driving in
reverse for a while (we’re talking hundreds of yards, not a few feet)
will get it to engage.

3) For a while it was very common for people to do live axle swaps
from 2000, 2001ish (forget the year it stopped being a relatively easy
exchange) to get around the vacuum pulse system.

4) After a while of #3, a company by the name of AVM came out with a
manual locking hub for the 98-2000 ranger. They can be run in
“locked” mode with the transfer case disengaged, giving you the same
result as a live axle swap, with 4x4 engaging right when you engage
the transfer case. This is nice because you can actually engage the
4x4 when stopped, (stuck) rather than having to anticipate needing
it. If you know you won’t be using 4x4 for some time (say you’re not
into 4 wheeling and it’s summer) you can switch to “free” on the hubs,
getting slightly better gas mileage. I personally leave them on
“locked” all winter and whenever I’m off-road, giving me instant-
engaging at the transfer case. One more fuel conscious or who used
the 4x4 less could leave them free all the time and get out of the
truck to lock them when 4x4 was needed.

5) The hubs are very reasonably priced – from what I recall the pair
costs about what 1 of the junk vac lock hubs cost from Ford.

6) The install is quick and easy. I installed them on my truck in
about an hour for both. It was by far the best modification I’ve made
to the vehicle to date.

7) The ranger station forum is a huge help for things like this, and
has a ton more info on the vac pulse system and the AVM hubs.
Personally, I can’t recommend the AVM hubs enough.
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On Dec 31, 9:01 am, "DanK...@gmail.com" <DanK....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> I’ve got a 98 Ranger as well, which I bought with inoperable 4x4.  I
> did a ton of research on the vac pulse system.  I’ll try to summarize
> what I learned.
>
> 1) The system is junk.  It debuted in 98 & was phased out to a live
> axle version for 2000 (2K was a mix/match year, could have either or).
>
> 2) Sometimes when the 4x4 won’t engage through normal use, driving in
> reverse for a while (we’re talking hundreds of yards, not a few feet)
> will get it to engage.
>
> 3) For a while it was very common for people to do live axle swaps
> from 2000, 2001ish (forget the year it stopped being a relatively easy
> exchange) to get around the vacuum pulse system.
>
> 4) After a while of #3, a company by the name of AVM came out with a
> manual locking hub for the 98-2000 ranger.  They can be run in
> “locked” mode with the transfer case disengaged, giving you the same
> result as a live axle swap, with 4x4 engaging right when you engage
> the transfer case.  This is nice because you can actually engage the
> 4x4 when stopped, (stuck) rather than having to anticipate needing
> it.  If you know you won’t be using 4x4 for some time (say you’re not
> into 4 wheeling and it’s summer) you can switch to “free” on the hubs,
> getting slightly better gas mileage.  I personally leave them on
> “locked” all winter and whenever I’m off-road, giving me instant-
> engaging at the transfer case.  One more fuel conscious or who used
> the 4x4 less could leave them free all the time and get out of the
> truck to lock them when 4x4 was needed.
>
> 5) The hubs are very reasonably priced – from what I recall the pair
> costs about what 1 of the junk vac lock hubs cost from Ford.
>
> 6) The install is quick and easy.  I installed them on my truck in
> about an hour for both.  It was by far the best modification I’ve made
> to the vehicle to date.
>
> 7) The ranger station forum is a huge help for things like this, and
> has a ton more info on the vac pulse system and the AVM hubs.
> Personally, I can’t recommend the AVM hubs enough.

Here's a link showing how the hub swap works. Should give you an
example how simple it is.
http://therangerstation.com/tech_library/AVM_hub_swap.htm

Also, that article mentions the center caps not fitting over the AVM
hubs. This must be different depending on the type of wheel you
have. My stock center caps fit over my AVM hubs just fine. I don't
have a picture of my front wheels handy, but if you're considering
this route and would like to see pics of the wheel, center cap and AVM
hubs on my truck I could take a couple pics tonight for you. In the
mean time I can tell you that my front wheels match my rears, and the
rear can be seen in this pic http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/J7-jdYhlR0Smqa--mO-N7w?feat=directlink
or http://tinyurl.com/7qmb9l. I'd say if you've got a 98 with wheels
that look like those, the center caps should fit fine.

Also, you mention this is a riding buddy. Perhaps this buddy is into
off-roading? The pulse lock hubs are particularly susceptible to
mud. I have been running the AVMs for a couple/few years now, through
all sorts of mud, buried at times, submerged in muddy water more times
than I can count, etc. I’m not easy on my truck. At all. In fact,
in the above linked pic you can see what I refer to as a “tree shaped
body modification”, which I got sliding sideways down a snow bank into
a tree in the woods. I’ve had failures of control arms, the drive
shaft itself, CV joints, and tires. I’ve been pulled out of the mud
by other trucks, and with my come-along and chain. I’ve not had a
single hesitation or failure to engage 4x4 since I installed these
hubs.
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<DanKMTB.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 31, 9:01 am, "DanK...@gmail.com" <DanK....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> I’ve got a 98 Ranger as well, which I bought with inoperable 4x4. I
> did a ton of research on the vac pulse system. I’ll try to summarize
> what I learned.
>
> 1) The system is junk. It debuted in 98 & was phased out to a live
> axle version for 2000 (2K was a mix/match year, could have either or).
>
> 2) Sometimes when the 4x4 won’t engage through normal use, driving in
> reverse for a while (we’re talking hundreds of yards, not a few feet)
> will get it to engage.
>
> 3) For a while it was very common for people to do live axle swaps
> from 2000, 2001ish (forget the year it stopped being a relatively easy
> exchange) to get around the vacuum pulse system.
>
> 4) After a while of #3, a company by the name of AVM came out with a
> manual locking hub for the 98-2000 ranger. They can be run in
> “locked” mode with the transfer case disengaged, giving you the same
> result as a live axle swap, with 4x4 engaging right when you engage
> the transfer case. This is nice because you can actually engage the
> 4x4 when stopped, (stuck) rather than having to anticipate needing
> it. If you know you won’t be using 4x4 for some time (say you’re not
> into 4 wheeling and it’s summer) you can switch to “free” on the hubs,
> getting slightly better gas mileage. I personally leave them on
> “locked” all winter and whenever I’m off-road, giving me instant-
> engaging at the transfer case. One more fuel conscious or who used
> the 4x4 less could leave them free all the time and get out of the
> truck to lock them when 4x4 was needed.
>
> 5) The hubs are very reasonably priced – from what I recall the pair
> costs about what 1 of the junk vac lock hubs cost from Ford.
>
> 6) The install is quick and easy. I installed them on my truck in
> about an hour for both. It was by far the best modification I’ve made
> to the vehicle to date.
>
> 7) The ranger station forum is a huge help for things like this, and
> has a ton more info on the vac pulse system and the AVM hubs.
> Personally, I can’t recommend the AVM hubs enough.

Here's a link showing how the hub swap works. Should give you an
example how simple it is.
http://therangerstation.com/tech_library/AVM_hub_swap.htm

Also, that article mentions the center caps not fitting over the AVM
hubs. This must be different depending on the type of wheel you
have. My stock center caps fit over my AVM hubs just fine. I don't
have a picture of my front wheels handy, but if you're considering
this route and would like to see pics of the wheel, center cap and AVM
hubs on my truck I could take a couple pics tonight for you. In the
mean time I can tell you that my front wheels match my rears, and the
rear can be seen in this pic
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/J7-jdYhlR0Smqa--mO-N7w?feat=directlink
or http://tinyurl.com/7qmb9l. I'd say if you've got a 98 with wheels
that look like those, the center caps should fit fine.

Also, you mention this is a riding buddy. Perhaps this buddy is into
off-roading? The pulse lock hubs are particularly susceptible to
mud. I have been running the AVMs for a couple/few years now, through
all sorts of mud, buried at times, submerged in muddy water more times
than I can count, etc. I’m not easy on my truck. At all. In fact,
in the above linked pic you can see what I refer to as a “tree shaped
body modification”, which I got sliding sideways down a snow bank into
a tree in the woods. I’ve had failures of control arms, the drive
shaft itself, CV joints, and tires. I’ve been pulled out of the mud
by other trucks, and with my come-along and chain. I’ve not had a
single hesitation or failure to engage 4x4 since I installed these
hubs.


Nah, that's riding, as in motorcycle riding. We do a bit of fooling around
back in the National Forest during the winter, but we're not what you call
serious off roaders. He'd just like the 4x4 to work when he's gotta go haul
hay out of his back pasture.
What with the uncorked vacuum port on the manifold, I guessing the
"mechanic" who did the heads just dropped the vac line down where it can't
be seen and forgot about it. The system worked fine before the engine
repair.

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'82 FLTC 'Pearl'
'87 FLTC 'Fugly'
'61 F-100
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On Jan 1, 4:02 pm, "Old Crow" <wallisc... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> <DanK... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>
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> On Dec 31, 9:01 am, "DanK...@gmail.com" <DanK... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I’ve got a 98 Ranger as well, which I bought with inoperable 4x4. I
> > did a ton of research on the vac pulse system. I’ll try to summarize
> > what I learned.
>
> > 1) The system is junk. It debuted in 98 & was phased out to a live
> > axle version for 2000 (2K was a mix/match year, could have either or).
>
> > 2) Sometimes when the 4x4 won’t engage through normal use, driving in
> > reverse for a while (we’re talking hundreds of yards, not a few feet)
> > will get it to engage.
>
> > 3) For a while it was very common for people to do live axle swaps
> > from 2000, 2001ish (forget the year it stopped being a relatively easy
> > exchange) to get around the vacuum pulse system.
>
> > 4) After a while of #3, a company by the name of AVM came out with a
> > manual locking hub for the 98-2000 ranger. They can be run in
> > “locked” mode with the transfer case disengaged, giving you the same
> > result as a live axle swap, with 4x4 engaging right when you engage
> > the transfer case. This is nice because you can actually engage the
> > 4x4 when stopped, (stuck) rather than having to anticipate needing
> > it. If you know you won’t be using 4x4 for some time (say you’re not
> > into 4 wheeling and it’s summer) you can switch to “free” on the hubs,
> > getting slightly better gas mileage. I personally leave them on
> > “locked” all winter and whenever I’m off-road, giving me instant-
> > engaging at the transfer case. One more fuel conscious or who used
> > the 4x4 less could leave them free all the time and get out of the
> > truck to lock them when 4x4 was needed.
>
> > 5) The hubs are very reasonably priced – from what I recall the pair
> > costs about what 1 of the junk vac lock hubs cost from Ford.
>
> > 6) The install is quick and easy. I installed them on my truck in
> > about an hour for both. It was by far the best modification I’ve made
> > to the vehicle to date.
>
> > 7) The ranger station forum is a huge help for things like this, and
> > has a ton more info on the vac pulse system and the AVM hubs.
> > Personally, I can’t recommend the AVM hubs enough.
>
> Here's a link showing how the hub swap works.  Should give you an
> example how simple it is.http://therangerstation.com/tech_library/AVM_hub_swap.htm
>
> Also, that article mentions the center caps not fitting over the AVM
> hubs.  This must be different depending on the type of wheel you
> have.  My stock center caps fit over my AVM hubs just fine.  I don't
> have a picture of my front wheels handy, but if you're considering
> this route and would like to see pics of the wheel, center cap and AVM
> hubs on my truck I could take a couple pics tonight for you.  In the
> mean time I can tell you that my front wheels match my rears, and the
> rear can be seen in this pichttp://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/J7-jdYhlR0Smqa--mO-N7w?feat=dire...
> orhttp://tinyurl.com/7qmb9l.  I'd say if you've got a 98 with wheels
> that look like those, the center caps should fit fine.
>
> Also, you mention this is a riding buddy.  Perhaps this buddy is into
> off-roading?  The pulse lock hubs are particularly susceptible to
> mud.  I have been running the AVMs for a couple/few years now, through
> all sorts of mud, buried at times, submerged in muddy water more times
> than I can count, etc.  I’m not easy on my truck.  At all.  In fact,
> in the above linked pic you can see what I refer to as a “tree shaped
> body modification”, which I got sliding sideways down a snow bank into
> a tree in the woods.  I’ve had failures of control arms, the drive
> shaft itself, CV joints, and tires.  I’ve been pulled out of the mud
> by other trucks, and with my come-along and chain.  I’ve not had a
> single hesitation or failure to engage 4x4 since I installed these
> hubs.
>
> Nah, that's riding, as in motorcycle riding.  We do a bit of fooling around
> back in the National Forest during the winter, but we're not what you call
> serious off roaders.  He'd just like the 4x4 to work when he's gotta go haul
> hay out of his back pasture.
> What with the uncorked vacuum port on the manifold, I guessing the
> "mechanic" who did the heads just dropped the vac line down where it can't
> be seen and forgot about it.  The system worked fine before the engine
> repair.
>
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 FLTC 'Pearl'
> '87 FLTC 'Fugly'
> '61 F-100
> BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, SLOB#13, MAMBM

I figured riding as in dirt bike riding - myself and my dirt bike
buddies tend to do some serious playing with out trucks as well. If
it's a simple as reattaching a vac line, do it up and best of luck to
you. If you do end up needing to replace a hub (as these things fail
often) even down the road, keep the AVM swap in mind. It's an
improvement on and off road.

Best of luck, and let us know how it turns out.
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