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Meatman

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Since: Sep 09, 2011
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:47 am
Post subject: 98 Accord V6...EVAP noise (L. rear) ongoing/persistent now - after
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Condition: CAR OFF after up to temp. Any weather as I recall.
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In the quiet of the night (and you aren't suspecting it) it made me
think a motorcycle was accelerating in the far
distance...brrrrRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrr......... tapers down and done.
-
Year or so ago, it seemed random to me. Definitely not persistent.
LAST NIGHT after -key off- I sat in the car for about an hour on the
phone. Same symptom audible inside car time-after-time-after-time at
same interval +/-. About every 40secs. for AT LEAST AN HOUR!
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-AND YES I have a DTC: P1456 + P0420. 'guessing' that the P0420 was
caused by the 1456 (?)
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-AND YES I've had the fuel vapour/smell issue for about 6-months (only
noticeable sitting at idle, of course). No ongoing overnight fuel
odor/leaks.
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Dammmit. Methinks I posted this already? Apologies. But 'then' the
odor was the wory. NOW, the noise is beyond persistent for an hour
after shutdown.
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Please advise, flame, or redirect accordingly. And THX as always!!!

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:00 am
Post subject: Re: 98 Accord V6...EVAP noise (L. rear) ongoing/persistent now - [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 02/08/2012 01:47 AM, Meatman wrote:
> Condition: CAR OFF after up to temp. Any weather as I recall.
> -
> In the quiet of the night (and you aren't suspecting it) it made me
> think a motorcycle was accelerating in the far
> distance...brrrrRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrr......... tapers down and done.
> -
> Year or so ago, it seemed random to me. Definitely not persistent.
> LAST NIGHT after -key off- I sat in the car for about an hour on the
> phone. Same symptom audible inside car time-after-time-after-time at
> same interval +/-. About every 40secs. for AT LEAST AN HOUR!

it's normal. toyotas do it too.


> -
> -AND YES I have a DTC: P1456 + P0420. 'guessing' that the P0420 was
> caused by the 1456 (?)

when you re-fuel, does the filler cap come off easily? if so, try a new
one - and make sure it screws down tight by pushing down as you turn.
[and after-market stant caps are better than honda in this regard.]
despite what the tsb says, this will cure your evap code.


> -
> -AND YES I've had the fuel vapour/smell issue for about 6-months (only
> noticeable sitting at idle, of course). No ongoing overnight fuel
> odor/leaks.

see above.


> -
> Dammmit. Methinks I posted this already? Apologies. But 'then' the
> odor was the wory. NOW, the noise is beyond persistent for an hour
> after shutdown.
> -
> Please advise, flame, or redirect accordingly. And THX as always!!!


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Tegger

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:29 am
Post subject: Re: 98 Accord V6...EVAP noise (L. rear) ongoing/persistent now - after car OFF [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Meatman wrote in
379fd23ee0bd.TakeThisOut@d15g2000yqg.googlegroups.com:

> Condition: CAR OFF after up to temp. Any weather as I recall.
> -
> In the quiet of the night (and you aren't suspecting it) it made me
> think a motorcycle was accelerating in the far
> distance...brrrrRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrr......... tapers down and done.
> -
> Year or so ago, it seemed random to me. Definitely not persistent.
> LAST NIGHT after -key off- I sat in the car for about an hour on the
> phone. Same symptom audible inside car time-after-time-after-time at
> same interval +/-. About every 40secs. for AT LEAST AN HOUR!



Semi-normal. EVAP tests run even after shutdown.


> -
> -AND YES I have a DTC: P1456 + P0420. 'guessing' that the P0420 was
> caused by the 1456 (?)



No. They are totally unrelated.



> -
> -AND YES I've had the fuel vapour/smell issue for about 6-months (only
> noticeable sitting at idle, of course). No ongoing overnight fuel
> odor/leaks.



Where do you live? If anywhere that has snow in winter, you probably have
corrosion on certain parts of the EVAP system, specifically the electrical
control-solenoids.

Honda, for some bizarre reson, installed the highly-complex and extremely-
sensitive EVAP system under the car, at the rear, just where moisture and
salt buildup are the worst.

I have compiled a list of Honda EVAP diagnostics documents, here:
<http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/evap-diag/>

If you feel like taking a shot in the dark, you can replace the gas cap
with a new Honda one (NOT aftermarket!). This usually does not fix a P1456,
but people seem to want to try that first.



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