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Since: May 08, 2007 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:55 am
Post subject: 92 Honda Accord starting problem -- sometimes won't crank Archived from groups: alt>autos>honda, others (more info?)
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Greetings from one of the many long-time lurkers. Could I please impose
upon the group to help me with a problem?
My daughter has a 1992 Honda Accord sedan, 145K miles, 5sp, which within the
last month or so has been having some odd problems starting.
At random times, and with no apparent pattern, the starter sometimes doesn't
crank. All the warning lights on the dash remain lit, all the other systems
in the car seem to have full power, and all other indicators appear normal,
but the starter just won't crank. But then if you release the key back to
the "Run" position, and then immediately turn it again to the "Start"
position, then the starter will crank and the car will start right up, no
problem. It doesn't do this every time - maybe once out of every eight to
ten times when starting the car - and there's no pattern that I've yet been
able to isolate as to when it will do this. Every other time the car starts
fine.
The battery is new, the ignition switch has been replaced, the clutch
disconnect switch checks out okay, and as far as I can determine the main
relay seems to be functioning properly (at least it passes all the tests as
described on Tegger's website, and I always get the three "distinctive
clicks". Plus I know that it has been replaced at least once on this car,
about six years ago.)
So far the car has never failed to eventually start, but I worry that it
might someday leave her stranded. My next thought was to try and search for
a loose ground somewhere (but where to start?), or pull the starter and tear
into that, but I would welcome any other ideas the group may have. I have
searched the archives but have not found anything very useful.
(I should add that I had just recently performed a major timing belt service
not long before the car started doing this, but I'm hard pressed to find any
cause-and-effect relationship, because I did not touch anything on the
electrical or ignition systems.)
Thanks in advance,
JimC in Redlands >> Stay informed about: 92 Honda Accord starting problem -- sometimes won't crank |
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Since: Nov 11, 2006 Posts: 79
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:28 am
Post subject: Re: 92 Honda Accord starting problem -- sometimes won't crank [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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JimC wrote:
> The battery is new, the ignition switch has been replaced, the clutch
> disconnect switch checks out okay, and as far as I can determine the main
> relay seems to be functioning properly (at least it passes all the tests
> as described on Tegger's website, and I always get the three "distinctive
> clicks". Plus I know that it has been replaced at least once on this car,
> about six years ago.)
Solenoid. >> Stay informed about: 92 Honda Accord starting problem -- sometimes won't crank |
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Since: Nov 27, 2006 Posts: 936
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:55 am
Post subject: Re: 92 Honda Accord starting problem -- sometimes won't crank [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: alt>autos>honda (more info?)
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Joe LaVigne <jlavigne.RemoveThis@hits-buffalo.com> wrote in
news:f1p8qe$dk6$1@aioe.org:
> JimC wrote:
>
>> The battery is new, the ignition switch has been replaced, the clutch
>> disconnect switch checks out okay, and as far as I can determine the
>> main relay seems to be functioning properly (at least it passes all
>> the tests as described on Tegger's website, and I always get the
>> three "distinctive clicks". Plus I know that it has been replaced at
>> least once on this car, about six years ago.)
>
> Solenoid.
>
Or poor stater cable connections.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
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Since: Nov 05, 2006 Posts: 264
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 8:22 am
Post subject: Re: 92 Honda Accord starting problem -- sometimes won't crank [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: alt>autos>honda, others (more info?)
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JimC wrote:
> Greetings from one of the many long-time lurkers. Could I please impose
> upon the group to help me with a problem?
>
>
>
> My daughter has a 1992 Honda Accord sedan, 145K miles, 5sp, which within the
> last month or so has been having some odd problems starting.
>
>
>
> At random times, and with no apparent pattern, the starter sometimes doesn't
> crank. All the warning lights on the dash remain lit, all the other systems
> in the car seem to have full power, and all other indicators appear normal,
> but the starter just won't crank. But then if you release the key back to
> the "Run" position, and then immediately turn it again to the "Start"
> position, then the starter will crank and the car will start right up, no
> problem. It doesn't do this every time - maybe once out of every eight to
> ten times when starting the car - and there's no pattern that I've yet been
> able to isolate as to when it will do this. Every other time the car starts
> fine.
>
>
>
> The battery is new, the ignition switch has been replaced, the clutch
> disconnect switch checks out okay, and as far as I can determine the main
> relay seems to be functioning properly (at least it passes all the tests as
> described on Tegger's website, and I always get the three "distinctive
> clicks". Plus I know that it has been replaced at least once on this car,
> about six years ago.)
>
>
>
> So far the car has never failed to eventually start, but I worry that it
> might someday leave her stranded. My next thought was to try and search for
> a loose ground somewhere (but where to start?), or pull the starter and tear
> into that, but I would welcome any other ideas the group may have. I have
> searched the archives but have not found anything very useful.
>
>
>
> (I should add that I had just recently performed a major timing belt service
> not long before the car started doing this, but I'm hard pressed to find any
> cause-and-effect relationship, because I did not touch anything on the
> electrical or ignition systems.)
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> JimC in Redlands
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Moe and Larry suggested 'solenoid' and 'starter cables'. Curly says it
may just be the ignition switch is worn out. The Main Relay has
absolutely nothing to do with starter engagement. I know a guy who
rebuilt his a couple times on a '93.
I doubt it's actually the starter, but here's a good thread with some
links regarding the CR-V starter, which is basically identical to yours:
http://www.hondasuv.com/members/showthread.php?t=20252&
'Curly' >> Stay informed about: 92 Honda Accord starting problem -- sometimes won't crank |
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Since: May 04, 2007 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:28 pm
Post subject: Re: 92 Honda Accord starting problem -- sometimes won't crank [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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In news:Z_b0i.8263$HR1.3032@trnddc01,
JimC <res8rwal.DeleteThis@verizon.net> wrote:
> Okay...the solenoid....and starter cable connections. I should have
> known to check these -- my pappy taught me better than that.
There's a small copper contact plate in the solenoid/starter assembly that
gets corroded after some time, and will produce exactly the symptoms you
describe -- intermittent cranking ability. I suffered through the problem
last winter thinking the clutch engage switch was faulty.
I took it to a mechanic who quickly remedied the problem by replacing the
copper contact plate in the starter/solenoid assembly and have had no
problems since. >> Stay informed about: 92 Honda Accord starting problem -- sometimes won't crank |
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Since: May 08, 2007 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:21 am
Post subject: Re: 92 Honda Accord starting problem -- sometimes won't crank [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Okay...the solenoid....and starter cable connections. I should have known
to check these -- my pappy taught me better than that.
Thanks to all who responded. It'll probably be the weekend before I have a
chance to look at it. I'll let you know if I find anything.
JimC
"motsco_" <motsco_ RemoveThis @interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:13411lvitpe1a65@corp.supernews.com...
> JimC wrote:
>> Greetings from one of the many long-time lurkers. Could I please impose
>> upon the group to help me with a problem?
>>
>>
>>
>> My daughter has a 1992 Honda Accord sedan, 145K miles, 5sp, which within
>> the last month or so has been having some odd problems starting.
>>
>>
>>
>> At random times, and with no apparent pattern, the starter sometimes
>> doesn't crank. All the warning lights on the dash remain lit, all the
>> other systems in the car seem to have full power, and all other
>> indicators appear normal, but the starter just won't crank. But then if
>> you release the key back to the "Run" position, and then immediately turn
>> it again to the "Start" position, then the starter will crank and the car
>> will start right up, no problem. It doesn't do this every time - maybe
>> once out of every eight to ten times when starting the car - and there's
>> no pattern that I've yet been able to isolate as to when it will do this.
>> Every other time the car starts fine.
>>
>>
>>
>> The battery is new, the ignition switch has been replaced, the clutch
>> disconnect switch checks out okay, and as far as I can determine the main
>> relay seems to be functioning properly (at least it passes all the tests
>> as described on Tegger's website, and I always get the three "distinctive
>> clicks". Plus I know that it has been replaced at least once on this
>> car, about six years ago.)
>>
>>
>>
>> So far the car has never failed to eventually start, but I worry that it
>> might someday leave her stranded. My next thought was to try and search
>> for a loose ground somewhere (but where to start?), or pull the starter
>> and tear into that, but I would welcome any other ideas the group may
>> have. I have searched the archives but have not found anything very
>> useful.
>>
>>
>>
>> (I should add that I had just recently performed a major timing belt
>> service not long before the car started doing this, but I'm hard pressed
>> to find any cause-and-effect relationship, because I did not touch
>> anything on the electrical or ignition systems.)
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> JimC in Redlands
> ----------------------------------
>
> Moe and Larry suggested 'solenoid' and 'starter cables'. Curly says it may
> just be the ignition switch is worn out. The Main Relay has absolutely
> nothing to do with starter engagement. I know a guy who rebuilt his a
> couple times on a '93.
> I doubt it's actually the starter, but here's a good thread with some
> links regarding the CR-V starter, which is basically identical to yours:
> http://www.hondasuv.com/members/showthread.php?t=20252&
>
> 'Curly' >> Stay informed about: 92 Honda Accord starting problem -- sometimes won't crank |
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