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scottfarkus

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:53 pm
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I have a 89 C1500 and the air cond has no air recirculation button on
the dash. I think it switches automatically from outside air to
recirculate. I noticed on the 92 C1500 it has an air recirculation
button on the dash and looks the same except for the air recirculation
button. Question is can you install the newer switch and get
everything to work and if so how many other things need to be changed
to make this possible?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:25 pm
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On Mar 10, 7:08 pm, Ashton Crusher <H... RemoveThis @nowhere.net> wrote:
> On 10 Mar 2007 18:53:05 -0800, scottfar... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
>
> >I have a 89 C1500 and the air cond has no air recirculation button on
> >the dash. I think it switches automatically from outside air to
> >recirculate. I noticed on the 92 C1500 it has an air recirculation
> >button on the dash and looks the same except for the air recirculation
> >button. Question is can you install the newer switch and get
> >everything to work and if so how many other things need to be changed
> >to make this possible?
>
> Doesn't the control have a setting for MAX air and another setting for
> "NORMAL or Just AC? MAX is the recirc setting.



No Max or Recirc... just AC and OFF...

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:08 pm
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On 10 Mar 2007 18:53:05 -0800, scottfarkus DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:

>I have a 89 C1500 and the air cond has no air recirculation button on
>the dash. I think it switches automatically from outside air to
>recirculate. I noticed on the 92 C1500 it has an air recirculation
>button on the dash and looks the same except for the air recirculation
>button. Question is can you install the newer switch and get
>everything to work and if so how many other things need to be changed
>to make this possible?


Doesn't the control have a setting for MAX air and another setting for
"NORMAL or Just AC? MAX is the recirc setting.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:30 pm
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On 10 Mar 2007 19:25:54 -0800, scottfarkus.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:

>On Mar 10, 7:08 pm, Ashton Crusher <H....TakeThisOut@nowhere.net> wrote:
>> On 10 Mar 2007 18:53:05 -0800, scottfar....TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >I have a 89 C1500 and the air cond has no air recirculation button on
>> >the dash. I think it switches automatically from outside air to
>> >recirculate. I noticed on the 92 C1500 it has an air recirculation
>> >button on the dash and looks the same except for the air recirculation
>> >button. Question is can you install the newer switch and get
>> >everything to work and if so how many other things need to be changed
>> >to make this possible?
>>
>> Doesn't the control have a setting for MAX air and another setting for
>> "NORMAL or Just AC? MAX is the recirc setting.
>
>
>
>No Max or Recirc... just AC and OFF...

Hmm, sounds like it might be an aftermarket unit. Some of them look
close to factory but not quite. I don't think Chevy has built an AC
unit that did not have a recirc setting since the 60's. Is your auto
temp control? If so, that might not give you manual control.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:45 am
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Ashton Crusher wrote:
> On 10 Mar 2007 19:25:54 -0800, scottfarkus RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>>On Mar 10, 7:08 pm, Ashton Crusher <H... RemoveThis @nowhere.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On 10 Mar 2007 18:53:05 -0800, scottfar... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have a 89 C1500 and the air cond has no air recirculation button on
>>>>the dash. I think it switches automatically from outside air to
>>>>recirculate. I noticed on the 92 C1500 it has an air recirculation
>>>>button on the dash and looks the same except for the air recirculation
>>>>button. Question is can you install the newer switch and get
>>>>everything to work and if so how many other things need to be changed
>>>>to make this possible?
>>>
>>>Doesn't the control have a setting for MAX air and another setting for
>>>"NORMAL or Just AC? MAX is the recirc setting.
>>
>>
>>
>>No Max or Recirc... just AC and OFF...
>
>
> Hmm, sounds like it might be an aftermarket unit. Some of them look
> close to factory but not quite. I don't think Chevy has built an AC
> unit that did not have a recirc setting since the 60's. Is your auto
> temp control? If so, that might not give you manual control.

My Dad's 90 GMC Sierra is the same way. No max setting. Just A/C on
and off. It came this way from the factory.

Bob
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:03 am
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On Mar 11, 9:45 am, Bob M <ram1....RemoveThis@vzavenue.net> wrote:
> Ashton Crusher wrote:
> > On 10 Mar 2007 19:25:54 -0800, scottfar....RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >>On Mar 10, 7:08 pm, Ashton Crusher <H....RemoveThis@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
> >>>On 10 Mar 2007 18:53:05 -0800, scottfar....RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Hmm, sounds like it might be an aftermarket unit. Some of them look
> > close to factory but not quite. I don't think Chevy has built an AC
> > unit that did not have a recirc setting since the 60's. Is your auto
> > temp control? If so, that might not give you manual control.
>
> My Dad's 90 GMC Sierra is the same way. No max setting. Just A/C on
> and off. It came this way from the factory.
>
> Bob


Its not aftermarket as Bob stated, it came from the factory that
way...
I do know the trucks history and it never has been replaced...
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:04 am
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On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:45:30 -0600, Bob M <ram1220 DeleteThis @vzavenue.net>
wrote:

>Ashton Crusher wrote:
>> On 10 Mar 2007 19:25:54 -0800, scottfarkus DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Mar 10, 7:08 pm, Ashton Crusher <H... DeleteThis @nowhere.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 10 Mar 2007 18:53:05 -0800, scottfar... DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have a 89 C1500 and the air cond has no air recirculation button on
>>>>>the dash. I think it switches automatically from outside air to
>>>>>recirculate. I noticed on the 92 C1500 it has an air recirculation
>>>>>button on the dash and looks the same except for the air recirculation
>>>>>button. Question is can you install the newer switch and get
>>>>>everything to work and if so how many other things need to be changed
>>>>>to make this possible?
>>>>
>>>>Doesn't the control have a setting for MAX air and another setting for
>>>>"NORMAL or Just AC? MAX is the recirc setting.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>No Max or Recirc... just AC and OFF...
>>
>>
>> Hmm, sounds like it might be an aftermarket unit. Some of them look
>> close to factory but not quite. I don't think Chevy has built an AC
>> unit that did not have a recirc setting since the 60's. Is your auto
>> temp control? If so, that might not give you manual control.
>
> My Dad's 90 GMC Sierra is the same way. No max setting. Just A/C on
>and off. It came this way from the factory.
>
>Bob

Maybe it was controlled by the full COLD setting at of the temp
control. It's possible that setting that all the way to cold put it
on recirc. You'd be able to tell from the sound of the fan. I know
GM used to have a vacuum switch at the full COLD temp position that
shut off the hot water flow to the heater core. But they also had a
recirc position too on the car I had that was like that (69 Pontiac).
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:58 pm
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"max" air is re-circ.

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<scottfarkus RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have a 89 C1500 and the air cond has no air recirculation button on
> the dash. I think it switches automatically from outside air to
> recirculate. I noticed on the 92 C1500 it has an air recirculation
> button on the dash and looks the same except for the air recirculation
> button. Question is can you install the newer switch and get
> everything to work and if so how many other things need to be changed
> to make this possible?
>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:00 pm
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If no "max" setting, then moving the temp control all the way to cold will
re-circ. Sounds like a dealer added A/C to me.

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<scottfarkus DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have a 89 C1500 and the air cond has no air recirculation button on
> the dash. I think it switches automatically from outside air to
> recirculate. I noticed on the 92 C1500 it has an air recirculation
> button on the dash and looks the same except for the air recirculation
> button. Question is can you install the newer switch and get
> everything to work and if so how many other things need to be changed
> to make this possible?
>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:27 am
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"Steve Barker" <ichasetrains RemoveThis @some.yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3NWdnTL5c94hXGnYnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@giganews.com...
> If no "max" setting, then moving the temp control all the way to cold will re-circ. Sounds like a dealer added A/C to me.
>
------


No no... thats the way they came until 93-94. I'm not sure if the trucks
have rec. air... AC units have the electronic control pannel, where as the
non ac units use the old tryed and true cable pullys. Im not sure, but i think
temp control set to full cold puts the system into rec. air mode.


HDS
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:27 am
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On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:27:10 -0400, "HDS" <None.DeleteThis@None.com> wrote:

>
>"Steve Barker" <ichasetrains.DeleteThis@some.yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3NWdnTL5c94hXGnYnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> If no "max" setting, then moving the temp control all the way to cold will re-circ. Sounds like a dealer added A/C to me.
>>
>------
>
>
>No no... thats the way they came until 93-94. I'm not sure if the trucks
>have rec. air... AC units have the electronic control pannel, where as the
>non ac units use the old tryed and true cable pullys. Im not sure, but i think
>temp control set to full cold puts the system into rec. air mode.
>

Easy enough to test. If it goes into recirc you'll here the extra
noise from the fan.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:00 pm
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Ashton Crusher wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:27:10 -0400, "HDS" <None.DeleteThis@None.com> wrote:
>
>
>>"Steve Barker" <ichasetrains.DeleteThis@some.yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3NWdnTL5c94hXGnYnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>>>If no "max" setting, then moving the temp control all the way to cold will re-circ. Sounds like a dealer added A/C to me.
>>>
>>
>>------
>>
>>
>>No no... thats the way they came until 93-94. I'm not sure if the trucks
>>have rec. air... AC units have the electronic control pannel, where as the
>>non ac units use the old tryed and true cable pullys. Im not sure, but i think
>>temp control set to full cold puts the system into rec. air mode.
>>
>
>
> Easy enough to test. If it goes into recirc you'll here the extra
> noise from the fan.

Putting the setting to full cold, there is no change in the fan at
all. My Dad's 90 Sierra came from the factory without a Max or Rec
setting. Now my friend's 94 Silverado did have a Max setting. My Dad's
unit is not an add in. The truck was purchased in Texas and came from
the factory the way it is.

Bob
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:23 pm
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On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:00:58 -0600, Bob M <ram1220.TakeThisOut@vzavenue.net>
wrote:

>Ashton Crusher wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:27:10 -0400, "HDS" <None.TakeThisOut@None.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Steve Barker" <ichasetrains.TakeThisOut@some.yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3NWdnTL5c94hXGnYnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>
>>>>If no "max" setting, then moving the temp control all the way to cold will re-circ. Sounds like a dealer added A/C to me.
>>>>
>>>
>>>------
>>>
>>>
>>>No no... thats the way they came until 93-94. I'm not sure if the trucks
>>>have rec. air... AC units have the electronic control pannel, where as the
>>>non ac units use the old tryed and true cable pullys. Im not sure, but i think
>>>temp control set to full cold puts the system into rec. air mode.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Easy enough to test. If it goes into recirc you'll here the extra
>> noise from the fan.
>
> Putting the setting to full cold, there is no change in the fan at
>all. My Dad's 90 Sierra came from the factory without a Max or Rec
>setting. Now my friend's 94 Silverado did have a Max setting. My Dad's
>unit is not an add in. The truck was purchased in Texas and came from
>the factory the way it is.
>
> Bob

Any chance of a picture of the control head? I'm sure you are
correct, it's just hard to believe GM cheaped out to the point were
they actually didn't even include a recirc setting. How do you know
it is a factory AC? Was it purchased new with window sticker? I
don't know if it still happens but quite a few years ago dealers often
made extra profit by ordering vehicles, esp trucks, without AC and
then adding it themselves.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:36 pm
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It's obvious now, that it was definitely a dealer add on.

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"Ashton Crusher" <Hello.TakeThisOut@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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>
> Any chance of a picture of the control head? I'm sure you are
> correct, it's just hard to believe GM cheaped out to the point were
> they actually didn't even include a recirc setting. How do you know
> it is a factory AC? Was it purchased new with window sticker? I
> don't know if it still happens but quite a few years ago dealers often
> made extra profit by ordering vehicles, esp trucks, without AC and
> then adding it themselves.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:57 pm
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"Bob M" <ram1220.DeleteThis@vzavenue.net> wrote in message
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> Ashton Crusher wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:27:10 -0400, "HDS" <None.DeleteThis@None.com> wrote:
>>
>
> Putting the setting to full cold, there is no change in the fan at all.
> My Dad's 90 Sierra came from the factory without a Max or Rec setting. Now
> my friend's 94 Silverado did have a Max setting. My Dad's unit is not an
> add in. The truck was purchased in Texas and came from the factory the way
> it is.
>
> Bob

All I can say is my 87 chevy truck had and my 91 chevy truck has a max air
setting, and that
straddles your dad's truck production date.. Both of these are Tahoe
editions, both manual air, not climate control. Controls are verticle on the
right side of the dash. The 93 Aastro van I drove at my last employer was
the same way.
So dwas my mom's 90 Corsica. and the 88 Celebrity wagon it replaced.
Just because you bought the truck new from a dealer does not mean it does
not have dealer
add on air. Especially in Texas.

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