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paof6

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:22 pm
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A mechanic replaced a 1997 850 engine with a 1994 without permission.
He modified components to get it to fit in the 97 engine compartment.
The car needed to pass the emissions test and it failed. Does anyone
know what the differences are in the emissions systems between those
two years? I know that the heads are different. The 94 engine runs
beautifully. Can the emissions be brought in line with the 97?

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Tim..

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:41 pm
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"paof6" <none.TakeThisOut@000.com> wrote in message
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>A mechanic replaced a 1997 850 engine with a 1994 without permission.
> He modified components to get it to fit in the 97 engine compartment.
> The car needed to pass the emissions test and it failed. Does anyone
> know what the differences are in the emissions systems between those
> two years? I know that the heads are different. The 94 engine runs
> beautifully. Can the emissions be brought in line with the 97?

I dont quite understand?

If the replacement engine bears the same engine code (i.e. 2.5 20v would be
a B5254FS) then the original management system will run it in the later car
and confirm to the emissions standard.

The engines did not change between years (internally or fuel system), and
you would have no difficulties.

Tim..

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Niels Bengaard

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:50 pm
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>A mechanic replaced a 1997 850 engine with a 1994 without permission.
> He modified components to get it to fit in the 97 engine compartment.
> The car needed to pass the emissions test and it failed. Does anyone
> know what the differences are in the emissions systems between those
> two years? I know that the heads are different. The 94 engine runs
> beautifully. Can the emissions be brought in line with the 97?

How much was replaced, only the shortblock with head or also ECU etc.
Is it replaced with the exact same type of engine?

The Volvo engines havent changed much if any these years, so shouldnt be a
problem getting it running correct. Try reading the error codes to get an
idea of where the problem is or say what part of the emission test it has
failed on. Might only be some air leak, not unreasonable to think of if an
engine transplant has been done.

Greetings Niels
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dupree8995

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:40 pm
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Hi Folks....

How are emissions tested where you register the car?

Most jurisdictions test OBD II vehicles [1996 and newer] by plugging
into the DLC and reading the readiness status of the car....active
codes, pending codes and clear readiness monitors. Some, however,
simply analyze exhaust gasses by means of a probe in the tailpipe.

Your 1997 model should fall into the former category...testing by
electronic reading of the vehicle data systems. Is your MIL [check
engine light] illuminated? Does it work when you turn on the ignition,
then go out when the car starts and runs?

Previous commentators are correct in that there is no significant
mechanical difference between a 94 and a 97 engine. So long as the
management system is from a 97 then you should have no problem passing
a smog test.

Let us know the outcome.

Best Regards

wharf rat
las vegas, NV
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John Horner

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:00 am
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paof6 wrote:
> A mechanic replaced a 1997 850 engine with a 1994 without permission.
> He modified components to get it to fit in the 97 engine compartment.
> The car needed to pass the emissions test and it failed. Does anyone
> know what the differences are in the emissions systems between those
> two years? I know that the heads are different. The 94 engine runs
> beautifully. Can the emissions be brought in line with the 97?
>

In California as least what he did is a no-no. You can't take a
vehicle backwards to an earlier model year engine and if they discover
you have done so it flunks the smog test even if the emissions sniffer
says aok.

There are lots of details which may well be different from the '94 to
the '97.
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James Sweet

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:38 am
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"John Horner" <jthorner.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> paof6 wrote:
>> A mechanic replaced a 1997 850 engine with a 1994 without permission.
>> He modified components to get it to fit in the 97 engine compartment.
>> The car needed to pass the emissions test and it failed. Does anyone
>> know what the differences are in the emissions systems between those
>> two years? I know that the heads are different. The 94 engine runs
>> beautifully. Can the emissions be brought in line with the 97?
>>
>
> In California as least what he did is a no-no. You can't take a vehicle
> backwards to an earlier model year engine and if they discover you have
> done so it flunks the smog test even if the emissions sniffer says aok.
>

Which is stupid IMO, I'm all for clean running cars, but if the sniffer says
it's good, what excuse do they have for failing it?
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