5th wheel in short bed

Ive had my adjustable fifth wheel hitch in
6+ Dodge Ram 1500 pickups since 98,
and it works great. My hitch is a dual pivot and slides, but works easy in
a shortbox. I had different mounts for th 05+ trucks.

I always get a pair for spring assist Monroe rear shocks,
and they tow and pull fine, with LT tires on the trucks.

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Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> having looked at what fords have to offer im back to wanting a mega
> cab dodge and i dont mind travelling to another dealer.
>
> i removed the 5th wheel hitch from my '05 but as i understand it
> there is a different hitch for a short bed? its a 2007 reese 20,000#
> 5th wheel. will it work on an '08 shortbed with different rails? how
> difficult is it to tow a 5th wheel camper with a short bed?
> thanks,

Do you still have the tri-axle Raptor? That thing is huge. I don't think a
megacab can handle it unless they changed them. The towing rating is really
poor on them.

If the truck can handle your camper and you want a long-bed megacab check
out http://www.megacablongbed.com/ .

Ken
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> If the truck can handle your camper and you want a long-bed megacab check
> out http://www.megacablongbed.com/ .

That can't be right... $6K for the conversion??

I think I just found my next truck....
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"Nosey" <kfrei43 RemoveThis @removethis.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Do you still have the tri-axle Raptor? That thing is huge. I don't think a
> megacab can handle it unless they changed them. The towing rating is
> really poor on them.

thanks for the tip. i do have the triple axle raptor and i think im just
going to wait around until the 4500s hit the lots. closest dealer is
livingston 2 hours away so ill probably head up there. in the meantime
while at the ford dealer yesterday i picked up this
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/9687/01jpghq6.jpg '01 cummins ram. 4
wheel disk brakes, all options, VERY clean at 125,000 miles. previous 1
owner, elderly man who passed away. his widow brought it in to trade as it
was to much truck for her. i bought it on the spot for $15,250 without
hesitation. although i was toying with the idea of picking up an addition
work truck to expand my busiiness one more man, i really wasnt ready but i
couldnt walk away from that truck at that price.

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Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> ...while at the ford dealer yesterday i picked up this
> http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/9687/01jpghq6.jpg '01 cummins ram.

Didn't you sell a grey one just like that?

Did you see Roy's ping on 4/11 about Jodi's Montana registration question?
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"Nosey" <kfrei43.DeleteThis@removethis.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>> ...while at the ford dealer yesterday i picked up this
>> http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/9687/01jpghq6.jpg '01 cummins ram.
>
> Didn't you sell a grey one just like that?


the grey one http://inlinediesel.com/trucks/2gen/1/index.html was the best
truck ive ever owned, period. i like it better than the newer ones i have
now. it was however, a short bed and for service work a short bed just
doesnt work for me.


> Did you see Roy's ping on 4/11 about Jodi's Montana registration question?

ill look for it.

Nathan In Montana
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http://images.collierwelding.com/disneyzoo07/2.jpg

that is my camper and my '05. from the looks of it, if i did buy the 3500
megacab and use the standard hitch i should still clear the trailer except
for when the truck and trailer are more than 90 degrees with one another.
is that right?

also, bottom line....will the 3500 mega cab pull this trailer safely? fully
loaded with fuel, gear, and everyone inside my rig total weight was just shy
of 23,000#.
thanks,
Nathan In Montana
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> that is my camper and my '05. from the looks of it, if i did buy the 3500
> megacab and use the standard hitch i should still clear the trailer except
> for when the truck and trailer are more than 90 degrees with one another.
> is that right?

Nope... the closest distance between cab and trailer comes at 45°. Measure
the distance from the pin of your trailer to a front corner. Then, measure
the distance from the center of the rear axle to the back of your cab (on
your long bed). Subtract 2 feet from that measurement. If the trailer
measurement is longer, then you've got a problem.
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On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 23:45:38 -0600, "Nathan W. Collier" <no.DeleteThis@way.com>
wrote:

>http://images.collierwelding.com/disneyzoo07/2.jpg
>
>that is my camper and my '05. from the looks of it, if i did buy the 3500
>megacab and use the standard hitch i should still clear the trailer except
>for when the truck and trailer are more than 90 degrees with one another.
>is that right?
>
>also, bottom line....will the 3500 mega cab pull this trailer safely? fully
>loaded with fuel, gear, and everyone inside my rig total weight was just shy
>of 23,000#.
>thanks,
>Nathan In Montana
>http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
>


What does the trailer weigh, ready to go?
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> Nope... the closest distance between cab and trailer comes at 45°.

I just realized what a stupid statement that came across as... obviously,
if you keep going beyond 90°, you're eventually going to hit. What I meant
was, between 0 and 90. the critical dimensions come at 45°. If it will
clear beyond a 45° swing, then you're good up to, and a little beyond, 90°.

Based on some quick calculations here, and a lot of estimating, I figure the
pin-to-corner distance to be around 4'5" or so.... might be a tight
squeeze.
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"Tom Lawrence" <tlawrence5 DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>> Nope... the closest distance between cab and trailer comes at 45°.
>
> I just realized what a stupid statement that came across as... obviously,
> if you keep going beyond 90°, you're eventually going to hit. What I
> meant was, between 0 and 90. the critical dimensions come at 45°. If it
> will clear beyond a 45° swing, then you're good up to, and a little
> beyond, 90°.
>
> Based on some quick calculations here, and a lot of estimating, I figure
> the pin-to-corner distance to be around 4'5" or so.... might be a tight
> squeeze.
>

Tom, if the pin to corner distance is 4'5", wouldn't the pin to center of
the rear window be even shorter? If so, your statement about "If it will
clear beyond a 45* swing, then you're good up to , and a little beyond,
90*." is a bit suspect.

I'm just envisioning a circle with the center on the center pin and the arc
smacking the either the truck cab corner or center of the window, but the
same arc will not smack both.

I'm thinkin if you measure from the center of the trailer's pin to the front
corner of the trailer, that will be your critical distance. Take that
distance to the truck and see how close to the cab you get, from a point
over the center of the bed (side to side) and centered over the rear axle.

I'm thinkin he will be better off with a slider hitch.

FMB
(North Mexico)


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"Tom Lawrence" <tlawrence5.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Based on some quick calculations here, and a lot of estimating, I figure
> the pin-to-corner distance to be around 4'5" or so.... might be a tight
> squeeze.

i had a buddy bring over his shortbed today. we attempted to connect my
camper to his 5th wheel at a 45 degree angle. NO WAY! backing into a tight
camping spot is tough enough without having to worry about hitting the cab
of the truck. i went today and bought an '08 LONG bed quad cab. see thread
"goodbye 5.9, hello 6.7".
thanks for all the help, im positive ill have more questions.

Nathan In Montana
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> Tom, if the pin to corner distance is 4'5", wouldn't the pin to center of
> the rear window be even shorter?

Corner of the trailer, not corner of the cab.

> I'm thinkin if you measure from the center of the trailer's pin to the
> front corner of the trailer, that will be your critical distance.

That's what I meant - even though it might not have been exactly clear.
"Measure the distance from the pin of your trailer to a front corner". I
was referring to the front corner of the trailer.

> I'm thinkin he will be better off with a slider hitch.

Probably so... short beds and big 5th wheels rarely go well together.
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