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robrjt

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:42 am
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Hi,
my 118k 91 560SEL is in need of the new chain. Any good info out
there? And whats the fav vendor of the group to buy from?

Years ago I help change a 380sl to a double row unit. A clip was used
to hold the chain together, no it requires a tool. I will look for a
rental at NAPA or so.

Bought this car on ebay and found it will be a bit of a project.
Thanks for any info!
Rob

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:43 pm
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autohausaz.com

That is the place I now buy alot of parts from. Tool rental for the factory
one is at http://www.performanceproducts.com/

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Scott Buchanan

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:41 pm
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Can the 102.981 engine from a 190 E be changed to a double row chain?


"robrjt" <rob.tansey.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> my 118k 91 560SEL is in need of the new chain. Any good info out
> there? And whats the fav vendor of the group to buy from?
>
> Years ago I help change a 380sl to a double row unit. A clip was used
> to hold the chain together, no it requires a tool. I will look for a
> rental at NAPA or so.
>
> Bought this car on ebay and found it will be a bit of a project.
> Thanks for any info!
> Rob
>
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Tiger1

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:55 am
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It is probably cheaper to put newer used engine into the car than to try
conversion if there is any. 4 Cylinders don't have as much torque as the V8
so no need for double. Just change them as a regular maintenance and it will
last.
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Scott Buchanan

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:22 pm
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Actually, I am replacing the engine due to a thrown rod. Never thought of
using a newer engine. The 230 CE is a w123 with a 102.980 engine. What
engine would you recommend?

Thanks


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> It is probably cheaper to put newer used engine into the car than to try
> conversion if there is any. 4 Cylinders don't have as much torque as the
V8
> so no need for double. Just change them as a regular maintenance and it
will
> last.
>
>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:23 pm
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Are you sure you got a 102.980 engine? 230CE in W123 chassis uses 115.xxx
engine... not a 102. Unless someone converted it already... then if this is
so, then you can put anything you want in there...102.985 engine as in 85 to
93 2.3L engine.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:23 pm
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I got the number on the block. The following websites say the same thing.

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/6633/w123models.html

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=7381&Mercedes-Benz


"Tiger" <tiger0002 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Are you sure you got a 102.980 engine? 230CE in W123 chassis uses 115.xxx
> engine... not a 102. Unless someone converted it already... then if this
is
> so, then you can put anything you want in there...102.985 engine as in 85
to
> 93 2.3L engine.
>
>
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:24 pm
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Then by all mean use any of the 2.3 engine. I'd go for the later model
instead... unless you want to try to put in a 2.3 16 valves engine for more
performance.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:24 pm
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Is this the Cosworth engine?

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> Then by all mean use any of the 2.3 engine. I'd go for the later model
> instead... unless you want to try to put in a 2.3 16 valves engine for
more
> performance.
>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:36 pm
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Yep, that was the Cosworth engine. Not easy to come by... and probably not
cheap either... unless you are really lucky to find a dismantler who simply
don't care about price.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:55 pm
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Tiger wrote:
> Are you sure you got a 102.980 engine? 230CE in W123 chassis uses 115.xxx
> engine... not a 102. Unless someone converted it already... then if this is
> so, then you can put anything you want in there...102.985 engine as in 85 to
> 93 2.3L engine.
>
>
102.980 is the correct engine for a 230ce / 123

the 230c carburettor engine uses the 115.9xx
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Daryll




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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:29 pm
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robrjt wrote:
Hi,
my 118k 91 560SEL is in need of the new chain. Any good info out
there? And whats the fav vendor of the group to buy from?

Years ago I help change a 380sl to a double row unit. A clip was used
to hold the chain together, no it requires a tool. I will look for a
rental at NAPA or so.

Bought this car on ebay and found it will be a bit of a project.
Thanks for any info!
Rob


My friend purchase a http://www.mbpartswarehouse.com/mercedes_timingchain.html (Mercedes timing chain) in our town, I forgot though what was the name of the shop... Doesn't have a good background in 560SEL too.. So, I cant help much about the info about the chain...
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