Ferrari 456 opinions?

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 02:39:10 GMT, "LIW" <liw.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote:
 >There is a verde green locally that has about 23, 000 miles on it, and is
 >priced at around $70,000. Other than knowing that it has a 12 cylinder
 >engine, and that it is very quiet looking, I don't know much about them.
 >
 >What are your opinions on this vehicle as a Ferrari, and what is a good
 >price?
 >
 >Not sure how much I'm impressed by the looks.

Gorgeous car, great drivetrain, early examples may have week interior
bits, but reviews are uniformly positive and glowing.

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LIW wrote:
 > There is a verde green locally that has about 23, 000 miles on it, and is
 > priced at around $70,000. Other than knowing that it has a 12 cylinder
 > engine, and that it is very quiet looking, I don't know much about them.
 >
 > What are your opinions on this vehicle as a Ferrari, and what is a good
 > price?
 >
 > Not sure how much I'm impressed by the looks.
 >
 >
It is kind of dull looking, but you know I've never had a problem with
that car, because the engine is so great. It's kind of like a super
fast luxo-boat - and what is wrong with that??

MC

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<<It is kind of dull looking>>

Indeed.

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"Harold Adrian Russell Philby" <home.office RemoveThis @kremlin.co.ru> wrote in message
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 > On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 02:39:10 GMT, "LIW" <liw RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote:
  > >There is a verde green locally that has about 23, 000 miles on it, and is
  > >priced at around $70,000. Other than knowing that it has a 12 cylinder
  > >engine, and that it is very quiet looking, I don't know much about them.
  > >
  > >What are your opinions on this vehicle as a Ferrari, and what is a good
  > >price?
  > >
  > >Not sure how much I'm impressed by the looks.
 >
 > Gorgeous car, great drivetrain, early examples may have week interior
 > bits, but reviews are uniformly positive and glowing.
 >
 > FORZA did a great buyer's guide, you should get a copy.

I have Forza's buyers guide for the 355 and the Testarossa, which were the
cars I was primarily looking at, but I'll also backorder the 456 article.
Thanks.
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"LIW" <liw RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
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 > There is a verde green locally that has about 23, 000 miles on it, and is
 > priced at around $70,000. Other than knowing that it has a 12 cylinder
 > engine, and that it is very quiet looking, I don't know much about them.
 >
 > What are your opinions on this vehicle as a Ferrari, and what is a good
 > price?

Expensive to maintain AFAIK. There was some kind of issue with the side
windows that crops up on some of them that necessitates very expensive
replacements on some cars - several $'000 per side.

 > Not sure how much I'm impressed by the looks.
 >

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"LIW" <liw.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
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 > There is a verde green locally that has about 23, 000 miles on it, and is
 > priced at around $70,000. Other than knowing that it has a 12 cylinder
 > engine, and that it is very quiet looking, I don't know much about them.
 >
 > What are your opinions on this vehicle as a Ferrari, and what is a good
 > price?
 >
 > Not sure how much I'm impressed by the looks.
 >
 >

They have a history of depreciating like keys dropped out of a Lear Jet.
Other than that, what's not to like?

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On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 03:45:21 GMT, "Kathy and Erich Coiner"
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 >"LIW" <liw RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
 >news:ir9sd.2317$PL1.2117@trnddc09...
  >> There is a verde green locally that has about 23, 000 miles on it, and is
  >> priced at around $70,000. Other than knowing that it has a 12 cylinder
  >> engine, and that it is very quiet looking, I don't know much about them.
  >>
  >> What are your opinions on this vehicle as a Ferrari, and what is a good
  >> price?
  >>
  >> Not sure how much I'm impressed by the looks.
 >
 >They have a history of depreciating like keys dropped out of a Lear Jet.
 >Other than that, what's not to like?

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Kathy and Erich Coiner wrote:
 > "LIW" <liw.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
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 >
  >>There is a verde green locally that has about 23, 000 miles on it, and is
  >>priced at around $70,000. Other than knowing that it has a 12 cylinder
  >>engine, and that it is very quiet looking, I don't know much about them.
  >>
  >>What are your opinions on this vehicle as a Ferrari, and what is a good
  >>price?
  >>
  >>Not sure how much I'm impressed by the looks.
  >>
  >>
 >
 >
 > They have a history of depreciating like keys dropped out of a Lear Jet.
 > Other than that, what's not to like?
 >
 > Erich
 >
 >
I would think "keys" dropped out of a Lear Jet would ... flutter, not
plunge. But then, my professor begged me to drop physics so he wouldn't
have to grade my work ...

I mean, are we talking middle-class soccer mom 8-key cluster? Playboy
soccer star 3-key leather fob? Or high school janitor
74-key-and-bottle-opener ball and chain? Let's get technical here.

MC

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 > Kathy and Erich Coiner wrote:
   >> >
  > >
  > > They have a history of depreciating like keys dropped out of a Lear Jet.
  > > Other than that, what's not to like?
  > >
  > > Erich

The depreciation was actually what caught my interest. This was a $150,000
plus car in 95, now available at 80 asking, probable 70.

But the more I looked at it, the less I cared for the looks. It is a very
quiet looking vehicle, much like my S8, also deceptively fast and good
handling. I'm afraid that I'm shallow enough that I want my sports car to
be swoopy, and aggressive looking, and have an edge to it........ like the
355 or 360, neither of which are in my price range yet. Maybe after the
430 hits the streets, the 355 will come down a bit more in price. I
still like the concept of a 12 cylinder Ferrari more than an 8, but all the
performance stats I read seem to indicate that the 355 is on par or better
than most of the 12s.

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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 16:50:02 GMT, "LIW" <liw.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote:
 >I still like the concept of a 12 cylinder Ferrari more than an 8, but all the
 >performance stats I read seem to indicate that the 355 is on par or better
 >than most of the 12s.

We've talked about you comparing apples and oranges, before...

Several years ago FORZA compared a '68 (?) 330 Spider and a '98 (?)
355 Spider: Guess which had "better" performance figures?

....Guess which got the nod for real world enjoyment, despite being
30-yrs older?

I know I'm beating a cavallo guasto, but you'll have much more fun on
the street in a '73 Dino 246 than you ever could in a '05 360 CS.

 >I wonder how many years it will be before a 360 is under $80,000?

Factoring the twin influences of persistent popularity and the
looming, incipient, '80s-like inflation...

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"Harold Adrian Russell Philby" <home.office.TakeThisOut@kremlin.co.ru> wrote in message
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 > On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 16:50:02 GMT, "LIW" <liw.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote:
  > >I still like the concept of a 12 cylinder Ferrari more than an 8, but all
the
  > >performance stats I read seem to indicate that the 355 is on par or
better
  > >than most of the 12s.
 >
 > We've talked about you comparing apples and oranges, before...
 >
 > Several years ago FORZA compared a '68 (?) 330 Spider and a '98 (?)
 > 355 Spider: Guess which had "better" performance figures?
 >
 > ...Guess which got the nod for real world enjoyment, despite being
 > 30-yrs older?
 >
 > I know I'm beating a cavallo guasto, but you'll have much more fun on
 > the street in a '73 Dino 246 than you ever could in a '05 360 CS.
 >
  > >I wonder how many years it will be before a 360 is under $80,000?
 >
 > Factoring the twin influences of persistent popularity and the
 > looming, incipient, '80s-like inflation...
 >
 > You'll be driving a Volvo by then.
 >


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<< I'm afraid that I'm shallow enough that I want my sports car to be swoopy,
and aggressive looking, and have an edge to it........ like the 355 or 360>>

*Aggressive* is not at all how I would describe either of those cars, but I
think I know what you mean.

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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 21:31:17 GMT, "LIW" <liw.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote:
 >"Harold Adrian Russell Philby" <home.office.RemoveThis@kremlin.co.ru> wrote in message
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  >> On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 16:50:02 GMT, "LIW" <liw.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote:
   >> >I still like the concept of a 12 cylinder Ferrari more than an 8, but all the
   >> >performance stats I read seem to indicate that the 355 is on par or better
   >> >than most of the 12s.
  >>
  >> We've talked about you comparing apples and oranges, before...
  >>
  >> Several years ago FORZA compared a '68 (?) 330 Spider and a '98 (?)
  >> 355 Spider: Guess which had "better" performance figures?
  >>
  >> ...Guess which got the nod for real world enjoyment, despite being
  >> 30-yrs older?
  >>
  >> I know I'm beating a cavallo guasto, but you'll have much more fun on
  >> the street in a '73 Dino 246 than you ever could in a '05 360 CS.
  >>
   >> >I wonder how many years it will be before a 360 is under $80,000?
  >>
  >> Factoring the twin influences of persistent popularity and the
  >> looming, incipient, '80s-like inflation...
  >>
  >> You'll be driving a Volvo by then.
 >
 >I'm also a motorcyclist.

May I have your liver?

 >I'll NEVER be driving a Volvo.

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