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Tonyh




Joined: Dec 13, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 9:58 am
Post subject: Peugeot 406 hesitation

Hi, Iv’e a problem with Peugeot 406 2 ltr hesitation etc, there’s always been a problem with uneven running when under oxygen loop control upto 3000rpm. Engine is EW RFR type Magneti Marrelli ECU. A guy who knows a thing or two about peugeot’s assured me it was a coil pack, which I replaced, no better. But stayed with it replacing odd bits when I had time. Eventually it failed emission tests, so I took it to main agents, who diagnosed misfire cased by guess what! the coil pack. Still failed MOT so replaced CAT, passed ok but still misfires, so decided to try again myself, before the next CAT goes, (this is the second replacement).
Hooked injectors and oxy sensor up to oscilloscope set up peg in throttle to 2250 rpm and took a few observations.
Injector on period dithers about 3ms (under loop control)
No of high counts from oxy sensor = 85 per minute
Voltage from throttle position sensor = varies slightly between .89v - .9v
After some time at this state the revs drop to approx 1200 rpm, readings then as follows.

Injector on period dithers about 4ms (under loop control)
Oxy sensor switching, but not counted, it looks normal.
Voltage from throttle position sensor = .893v

Why should injector see 4ms as the correct fuel dose to produce a switching oxy sensor?
The idle valve has been renewed, (not faulty). But I cant work out what its position might be set at, or why it should want to be at a position other than the 2250 rev spot.
Any help would be appreciated.
Tony


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Since: May 09, 2005
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 4:55 pm
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Hi mate these engines are a bag of shit (ew10j4r) the uneven idle is common
....usual causes are hydraulic tappets (can be diagnosd with a scope and amp
clamp from cold on batt lead) injectors (prob test last of all for
delievery and distribution ) coolant temp sensor , throttle body remove and
clean out and replace rubber seal, manifold absolute pressure sensor, prob
need a bit more info for hesitation .test these items mentioned never just
replace, you have a oscilloscope get it hooked up and ripping , you seem
pretty switched on ... all the best mark (peugeot master tech)

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Tonyh




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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:21 am
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Hi Mark thanks for the reply. As soon as I get some time to spare I'll try and tick a few suspects off the likely list.
Tony
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