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Traci




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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:51 pm
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I am looking at a 1991 Toyota as a starter car for my daughter - it has 400,000 miles on it. Am I crazy to even think about it? Also does anyone have a step by step guide on what I should be looking for when buying a used car? I am a single woman with a little experience about motors. I can pull the oil cap to see if it is smoking, things like that. Any more advice?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:51 pm
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Not crazy, just in need of a little guidance. What kind of budget do
you have to work with? What have you allowed for the cost of ongoing
maintenance and insurance? Will she be chipping in for the expenses or
at least buying her own gas? Do you have a solid car yourself? Would
it make more sense to let her drive yours (which you at least have
knowledge of) and think about something else for yourself? In what
kind of area (urban/suburban/rural) and climate do you live? How many
miles a year will she be driving? Some additional information would be
useful.

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Dan J.S.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:13 pm
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"Traci" <UseLinkToEmail RemoveThis @www.autoforumz.com> wrote in message
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>I am looking at a 1991 Toyota as a starter car for my daughter - it
> has 400,000 miles on it. Am I crazy to even think about it? Also
> does anyone have a step by step guide on what I should be looking for
> when buying a used car? I am a single woman with a little experience
> about motors. I can pull the oil cap to see if it is smoking, things
> like that. Any more advice?
>

400k is too much!
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:52 pm
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Traci wrote:
> I am looking at a 1991 Toyota as a starter car for my
> daughter - it has 400,000 miles on it.

Be sure the odometer hasn't been rolled back.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:55 pm
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On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 15:36:53 -0500, Traci wrote:

> I am looking at a 1991 Toyota as a starter car for my daughter - it
> has 400,000 miles on it. Am I crazy to even think about it? Also
> does anyone have a step by step guide on what I should be looking for
> when buying a used car? I am a single woman with a little experience
> about motors. I can pull the oil cap to see if it is smoking, things
> like that. Any more advice?

Look for a Corolla with about 250,000 less....
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:15 pm
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Your best bet, Traci, (and this goes for ANYONE buying a used car who is
not terribly knowledgeable about these things) is to take whatever car you
are looking at to a shop and spend some money on having a technician look
it over. The ideal would be to take it to the dealer of whatever make you
are considering and have one of the used car technicians inspect it. The
reason I suggest this is in addition to looking at mechanical items, these
techs are also trained to spot past accident and flood damage. The dealer I
works for charges around $80.00 for this service. Very cheap insurance to
avoid costly headaches down the road.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:55 pm
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Traci <UseLinkToEmail RemoveThis @www.autoforumz.com> wrote:

>I am looking at a 1991 Toyota as a starter car for my daughter -

Forgot to ask...her age?...school?...job?...
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:55 am
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On 1 Nov 2005 15:36:53 -0500, Traci
<UseLinkToEmail DeleteThis @www.autoforumz.com> wrote:

>I am looking at a 1991 Toyota as a starter car for my daughter - it
>has 400,000 miles on it. Am I crazy to even think about it? Also
>does anyone have a step by step guide on what I should be looking for
>when buying a used car? I am a single woman with a little experience
>about motors. I can pull the oil cap to see if it is smoking, things
>like that. Any more advice?

I would be wary of buying a car with that many miles on it only
because you don't know the service history and maintenance work that
has (or has not) been performed. If the seller has complete records,
or is a relative whose word you can trust on things like that, that's
one hurdle passed.

If you check the car yourself and think it's a good deal, you still
need to go get it checked over thoroughly by a local mechanic that's
an expert in older Toyotas - you might spend $50 to $80 on it, but the
inspection can save you a whole lot more. Compression and leakdown
tests, pre-test the emissions on a smog machine, look over the body
and suspension for imminent problems, check the brakes and axles, etc.
And if there are major problems brewing either pass on that car, or
get one hell of a bargain price on it figuring you will have to fix
those items yourself soon.

Toyota's will keep running well long past 400,000 miles, you can
drive them effectively forever if they are well cared for - but that
means jumping on $500 maintenance items like a new timing chain and
chain guide kit as they come up /before/ they become terminal. (The
slack timing chain wears through the inside of the timing cover and
dumps coolant into the oil on the 20R and 22R motors, and then you
have a big mess to fix.)

Systems and parts will wear out, that's normal - just fix them and
keep driving. It might need a manual transmission rebuild at 500,000
and a new steering gearbox at 600,000...

And eventually you'll have a million miles on it and it'll be due
for an engine overhaul. Then you get it back on the road and start on
the next million miles.

But let the little repairs go for too long, then they break and
cause major damage, and suddenly it's cheaper to scrap the car.

IMHO the only real reason to scrap a car is if it rusts out from
under you, or it does not meet your needs any more (as in a growing
family). If the car does what you need it to do (get you and your
stuff from Point A to Point B and back) and you can still get repair
parts for it, keep driving.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:16 am
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Traci




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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:52 pm
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you have all been great help - i think with the advice i have received, i will pass on this specific car - BUT you can guarantee i will seek more advice on this site - it was a eye catcher at $400 but the white smoke was a real turn off
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:55 am
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On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 00:37:00 -0500, Traci wrote:

> "Traci" wrote:
> > I am looking at a 1991 Toyota as a starter car for my daughter
> > - it has 400,000 miles on it. Am I crazy to even think about
> > it? Also does anyone have a step by step guide on what I
> > should be looking for when buying a used car? I am a single
> > woman with a little experience about motors. I can pull the
> > oil cap to see if it is smoking, things like that. Any more
> > advice?
>
> you have all been great help - i think with the advice i have
> received, i will pass on this specific car - BUT you can guarantee i
> will seek more advice on this site - it was a eye catcher at $400 but
> the white smoke was a real turn off

White Smoke??? Did you mention White Smoke before? I don't think so.

Just the sign (probably) of a blown headgasket and a $1200 repair! On a
car e/400K????

Scrap is currently $127 a ton...
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