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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:26 pm
Post subject: 40 years ago today
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On June 8, 1967 the lightly armed USS Liberty, flying a large Stars &
Stripes flag, sailing in international waters in the Eastern Mediterranean ,
was brutally attacked without any warning by Israeli warplanes & torpedo
boats, resulting in the deaths of 34 sailors & injuring 178. Blacked out in
the US media and dismissed as a "mistake"
by US & Israeli officials, attempts to throw the event & the memory of the
dead & injured down the memory hole have failed and it is now known that the
attack was planned by the Israelis with the knowledge of the Johnson
administration.
Remember the Liberty!
The evidence was clear. Both Admiral Kidd and I believed with certainty that
this attack...was a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder
its entire crew.... It was our shared belief. . .that the attack. . .could
not possibly have been an accident.... I am certain that the Israeli pilots
[and] their superiors. . .were well aware that the ship was American."
-- Captain Ward Boston, JAGC, US Navy (retired), senior legal
counsel to the US Navy Court of Inquiry
www.ussliberty.org
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:27 pm
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| I know a former crew member of that vessel. (I don't believe was
aboard at the time of the attack). He crashed a motorcycle and got a
steel plate put in his head. Now Jack is "Crazy Jack"!
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:30 pm
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Kind of makes one wonder what is real and what is perceived as real,
as they want us to believe. How many other things have been covered
up, or mislead us to believe something that wasn't there. Recent
history echo's the past. How many of us were sold on the idea that it
was iraq's doing that did in the trade towers and let's not forget
the weapons of mass destruction. Another example of two side shows to
distract us from the real truth. Dog and pony show politics. >> Stay informed about: 40 years ago today |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:56 pm
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On Jun 8, 8:30 pm, Pckstude <flee... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> Kind of makes one wonder what is real and what is perceived as real,
> as they want us to believe. How many other things have been covered
> up, or mislead us to believe something that wasn't there. Recent
> history echo's the past. How many of us were sold on the idea that it
> was iraq's doing that did in the trade towers and let's not forget
> the weapons of mass destruction. Another example of two side shows to
> distract us from the real truth. Dog and pony show politics.
"But who's to believe which is right and which is an
illusion?" (author forgotton, but give me a deep inhalation or two and
I might recall.) Karl >> Stay informed about: 40 years ago today |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:08 pm
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Business as usual with the corrupt shadow government. America has had
several days which will live in infamy, and often the infamy has been on the
part of our "leaders" who stampede the peace-loving US public into senseless
& avoidable wars for the benefit of other governments &/or entities at great
cost to this nation.
At the end of their lives, both FDR & Wilson stated that events are
controlled & the nation is ruled by different people than one would expect.
BH
"Pckstude" <fleet_b DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Kind of makes one wonder what is real and what is perceived as real,
> as they want us to believe. How many other things have been covered
> up, or mislead us to believe something that wasn't there. Recent
> history echo's the past. How many of us were sold on the idea that it
> was iraq's doing that did in the trade towers and let's not forget
> the weapons of mass destruction. Another example of two side shows to
> distract us from the real truth. Dog and pony show politics.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:16 pm
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And we decide which is right
And which is an illusion
Moody Blues - Nights in White Satin
Full Text below:
Breathe deep in the gathering gloom
Watch lights fade from every room
Bedsitter people look back and lament
Another day's useless energy's spent
Impassioned lovers wrestle as one
Lonely man cries for love and has none
New mother picks up and suckles her son
Senior citizens wish they were young
Cold-hearted orb that rules the night
Removes the colors from our sight
Red is gray and yellow white
And we decide which is right
And which is an illusion?
> On Jun 8, 8:30 pm, Pckstude <flee... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > Kind of makes one wonder what is real and what is perceived as real,
> > as they want us to believe. How many other things have been covered
> > up, or mislead us to believe something that wasn't there. Recent
> > history echo's the past. How many of us were sold on the idea that it
> > was iraq's doing that did in the trade towers and let's not forget
> > the weapons of mass destruction. Another example of two side shows to
> > distract us from the real truth. Dog and pony show politics.
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> "But who's to believe which is right and which is an
> illusion?" (author forgotton, but give me a deep inhalation or two and
> I might recall.) Karl >> Stay informed about: 40 years ago today |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:35 pm
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On Jun 10, 2:16 pm, j... DeleteThis @greenbaynet.com wrote:
> And we decide which is right
> And which is an illusion
>
> Moody Blues - Nights in White Satin
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> Full Text below:
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> Breathe deep in the gathering gloom
> Watch lights fade from every room
> Bedsitter people look back and lament
> Another day's useless energy's spent
> Impassioned lovers wrestle as one
> Lonely man cries for love and has none
> New mother picks up and suckles her son
> Senior citizens wish they were young
> Cold-hearted orb that rules the night
> Removes the colors from our sight
> Red is gray and yellow white
> And we decide which is right
> And which is an illusion?
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> > On Jun 8, 8:30 pm, Pckstude <flee... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > Kind of makes one wonder what is real and what is perceived as real,
> > > as they want us to believe. How many other things have been covered
> > > up, or mislead us to believe something that wasn't there. Recent
> > > history echo's the past. How many of us were sold on the idea that it
> > > was iraq's doing that did in the trade towers and let's not forget
> > > the weapons of mass destruction. Another example of two side shows to
> > > distract us from the real truth. Dog and pony show politics.
>
> > "But who's to believe which is right and which is an
> > illusion?" (author forgotton, but give me a deep inhalation or two and
> > I might recall.) Karl- Hide quoted text -
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I think that it was Graham who wrote that part. I was 90% sure on the
title of the song, but after so many years...
Oh, speaking of the British Invason, is anyone interested in a "White
Cover" album? I think that my late wife brought it over from England
with her, but all the MB ones we bought in the States.
Karl >> Stay informed about: 40 years ago today |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:49 pm
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I thought that was a Star Trek episode.
Malcom
<midlant.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Jun 8, 8:30 pm, Pckstude <flee....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Kind of makes one wonder what is real and what is perceived as real,
>> as they want us to believe. How many other things have been covered
>> up, or mislead us to believe something that wasn't there. Recent
>> history echo's the past. How many of us were sold on the idea that it
>> was iraq's doing that did in the trade towers and let's not forget
>> the weapons of mass destruction. Another example of two side shows to
>> distract us from the real truth. Dog and pony show politics.
>
> "But who's to believe which is right and which is an
> illusion?" (author forgotton, but give me a deep inhalation or two and
> I might recall.) Karl
> >> Stay informed about: 40 years ago today |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:04 am
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Yes, the Moody Blues have been one of my favorites since I was in hi school
in early 70's, and I still enjoy listening to them.
The illusions can be found in the mainstream media every day. Reality is
often more difficult to find.
"In an age of universal deception, telling the truth is a revolutionary
act."
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"Malcom Gillette" <82muchmgillette1.DeleteThis@cox.net> wrote in message
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> I thought that was a Star Trek episode.
> Malcom
> <midlant.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:1181451415.915460.214760@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jun 8, 8:30 pm, Pckstude <flee....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Kind of makes one wonder what is real and what is perceived as real,
> >> as they want us to believe. How many other things have been covered
> >> up, or mislead us to believe something that wasn't there. Recent
> >> history echo's the past. How many of us were sold on the idea that it
> >> was iraq's doing that did in the trade towers and let's not forget
> >> the weapons of mass destruction. Another example of two side shows to
> >> distract us from the real truth. Dog and pony show politics.
> >
> > "But who's to believe which is right and which is an
> > illusion?" (author forgotton, but give me a deep inhalation or two and
> > I might recall.) Karl
> >
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:06 pm
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On Jun 10, 2:16 pm, j....DeleteThis@greenbaynet.com wrote:
> And we decide which is right
> And which is an illusion
>
> Moody Blues - Nights in White Satin
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> Full Text below:
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> Breathe deep in the gathering gloom
> Watch lights fade from every room
> Bedsitter people look back and lament
> Another day's useless energy's spent
> Impassioned lovers wrestle as one
> Lonely man cries for love and has none
> New mother picks up and suckles her son
> Senior citizens wish they were young
> Cold-hearted orb that rules the night
> Removes the colors from our sight
> Red is gray and yellow white
> And we decide which is right
> And which is an illusion?
>
>
Did you get that from something written or from what you heard on the
record?
I wondered about the question mark instead of a full stop. >> Stay informed about: 40 years ago today |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:28 am
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On Jun 11, 6:04 am, "Barry" <bhack....TakeThisOut@houston.rr.com> wrote:
> Yes, the Moody Blues have been one of my favorites since I was in hi school
> in early 70's,
Good Grief!
That means you're about 20 years younger than I am...but don't look
it.)
(or maybe you got held back a lot!) <g>
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:36 am
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On Jun 12, 9:09 am, John Poulos <ava....DeleteThis@erols.com> wrote:
> Could be a full stop, here the lyrics I found:
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> Breathe deep the gathering gloom
> Watch lights fade from every room
> Bedsetter people look back and lament
> Another day's useless energy's spent
> Impassioned lovers wrestle as one
> Lonely man cries for love and has none
> New mother picks up and suckles her son
> Senior citizens wish they were young
> Cold-hearted orb that rules the night
> Removes the colors from our sight
> Red is gray and yellow white
> But we decide which is right
> And which is an illusion
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> midl....DeleteThis@earthlink.net wrote:
> > On Jun 10, 2:16 pm, j....DeleteThis@greenbaynet.com wrote:
> >> And we decide which is right
> >> And which is an illusion
>
> >> Moody Blues - Nights in White Satin
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> >> Full Text below:
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> >> Breathe deep in the gathering gloom
> >> Watch lights fade from every room
> >> Bedsitter people look back and lament
> >> Another day's useless energy's spent
> >> Impassioned lovers wrestle as one
> >> Lonely man cries for love and has none
> >> New mother picks up and suckles her son
> >> Senior citizens wish they were young
> >> Cold-hearted orb that rules the night
> >> Removes the colors from our sight
> >> Red is gray and yellow white
> >> And we decide which is right
> >> And which is an illusion?
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> > Did you get that from something written or from what you heard on the
> > record?
> > I wondered about the question mark instead of a full stop.
>
> --
> JP/Maryland
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Just for info sake, a "bedsitter" would be call a "Studio Apartment"
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:09 pm
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Could be a full stop, here the lyrics I found:
Breathe deep the gathering gloom
Watch lights fade from every room
Bedsetter people look back and lament
Another day's useless energy's spent
Impassioned lovers wrestle as one
Lonely man cries for love and has none
New mother picks up and suckles her son
Senior citizens wish they were young
Cold-hearted orb that rules the night
Removes the colors from our sight
Red is gray and yellow white
But we decide which is right
And which is an illusion
midlant RemoveThis @earthlink.net wrote:
> On Jun 10, 2:16 pm, j... RemoveThis @greenbaynet.com wrote:
>> And we decide which is right
>> And which is an illusion
>>
>> Moody Blues - Nights in White Satin
>>
>> Full Text below:
>>
>> Breathe deep in the gathering gloom
>> Watch lights fade from every room
>> Bedsitter people look back and lament
>> Another day's useless energy's spent
>> Impassioned lovers wrestle as one
>> Lonely man cries for love and has none
>> New mother picks up and suckles her son
>> Senior citizens wish they were young
>> Cold-hearted orb that rules the night
>> Removes the colors from our sight
>> Red is gray and yellow white
>> And we decide which is right
>> And which is an illusion?
>>
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> Did you get that from something written or from what you heard on the
> record?
> I wondered about the question mark instead of a full stop.
>
--
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:29 am
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Yep, I graduated in '73, just in time to avoid the war. My timing has not
always been perfect, but it was then.
BH
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> On Jun 11, 6:04 am, "Barry" <bhack... DeleteThis @houston.rr.com> wrote:
> > Yes, the Moody Blues have been one of my favorites since I was in hi
school
> > in early 70's,
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> Good Grief!
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> That means you're about 20 years younger than I am...but don't look
> it.)
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> (or maybe you got held back a lot!) <g>
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> Karl
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