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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:45 pm
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hey ya..

Will this seriously imposing car be coming to the good ole UK?

If so..im buying!!

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:55 pm
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And how much do you guys pay for gas these days?


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> hey ya..
>
> Will this seriously imposing car be coming to the good ole UK?
>
> If so..im buying!!
>
> Smile
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:55 am
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yep, got a test drive October or November, the dealer's already got a left
hand drive one in just for show, priced from about 25k up to 32k for the
hemi

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Dori A Schmetterli

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:55 am
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Ninety-five pence (GBP 0.95) per litre of standard 95 octane (c. 91 US).
(Double US as usual?)

DAS

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> And how much do you guys pay for gas these days?
>
>
> <mudpucket.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1127688337.919281.190860@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> hey ya..
>>
>> Will this seriously imposing car be coming to the good ole UK?
>>
>> If so..im buying!!
>>
>> Smile
>>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:01 am
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Dori A Schmetterling wrote:

> Ninety-five pence (GBP 0.95) per litre of standard 95 octane
> (c. 91 US). (Double US as usual?)

..95 lbs per liter is $1.68 (USD) per liter which is $6.35 per US
gallon.

Current US price per gallon is around $3.00 per gallon (but I'm
thinking this will settle back to $2.50 by January or Feb).

Oil refiners are getting (clearing) about $1 (or $1.45?) for every
gallon of gas they refine (vs 28 cents back a year ago when gas
retailed for $1.87). Distributors and retailers are getting about 18
cents, and all state, federal, and local taxes average around 44 cents
per gallon.

I'm sure it's been a high-priority (but relatively secret) concern by
the white house (and particularly Cheney) to look into and/or find
ways to increase US refining capacity, but it's hard to know if people
like Cheney are too much in the pocket of the oil business to force
changes to refinery capacity. They are probably walking a tightrope
of seeing how high the price will go (can go) without causing an
extreme public backlash and/or destabilize the US economy vs forcing
the oil industry to increase refinery capacity. There was talk a year
or so ago about converting soon-to-be-closed military bases in the US
to oil refineries (the "not-in-my-backyard" mentality means that
derelict military bases look attractive as places to build new
refineries).

Many school boards in the USA are (or are considering) switching to
4-day school week because of high costs for fuel for school busses.
The entire state of Georgia is (or was, or will be?) extending
vacation time and keeping all kids at home. They figure that will
save the state 250,000 gallons of diesel fuel per day.

By the way, is 95 octane (in the UK) equivalent to 91 octane as marked
on US/CDN pumps?

Around here, 91 octane is "high-test", with 89 octane in the middle
and 87 octane as regular (Sunoco might have super-high test - 94
octane if I'm not mistaken). I put 87 in my 300m.

Price for 89 octane is about 5% more than for 87, and 91 octane is 10%
more.

I think all grades have 10% ethanol. You guys have ethanol in your
gas too?
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General Schvantzko

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:24 am
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On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 10:01:42 -0400, MoPar Man wrote:

> Dori A Schmetterling wrote:
>
>> Ninety-five pence (GBP 0.95) per litre of standard 95 octane
>> (c. 91 US). (Double US as usual?)
>
> .95 lbs per liter is $1.68 (USD) per liter which is $6.35 per US
> gallon.
>
> Current US price per gallon is around $3.00 per gallon (but I'm
> thinking this will settle back to $2.50 by January or Feb).
>
> Oil refiners are getting (clearing) about $1 (or $1.45?) for every
> gallon of gas they refine (vs 28 cents back a year ago when gas
> retailed for $1.87). Distributors and retailers are getting about 18
> cents, and all state, federal, and local taxes average around 44 cents
> per gallon.
>
> I'm sure it's been a high-priority (but relatively secret) concern by
> the white house (and particularly Cheney) to look into and/or find
> ways to increase US refining capacity, but it's hard to know if people
> like Cheney are too much in the pocket of the oil business to force
> changes to refinery capacity. They are probably walking a tightrope
> of seeing how high the price will go (can go) without causing an
> extreme public backlash and/or destabilize the US economy vs forcing
> the oil industry to increase refinery capacity. There was talk a year
> or so ago about converting soon-to-be-closed military bases in the US
> to oil refineries (the "not-in-my-backyard" mentality means that
> derelict military bases look attractive as places to build new
> refineries).
>
> Many school boards in the USA are (or are considering) switching to
> 4-day school week because of high costs for fuel for school busses.
> The entire state of Georgia is (or was, or will be?) extending
> vacation time and keeping all kids at home. They figure that will
> save the state 250,000 gallons of diesel fuel per day.
>
> By the way, is 95 octane (in the UK) equivalent to 91 octane as marked
> on US/CDN pumps?
>
> Around here, 91 octane is "high-test", with 89 octane in the middle
> and 87 octane as regular (Sunoco might have super-high test - 94
> octane if I'm not mistaken). I put 87 in my 300m.
>
> Price for 89 octane is about 5% more than for 87, and 91 octane is 10%
> more.
>
> I think all grades have 10% ethanol. You guys have ethanol in your
> gas too?

Ethanol is only in the corn producing states of the Midwest, in the East
we have MBTE in our gas and premium is generally 93 octane not 91.

Don't count on seeing anymore refineries built, lets just hope that all of
the refineries that were damaged in the hurricanes are brought back on
line. The oil companies haven't added any refining capacity in decades,
the cost for a new refinery is in the billions and the return on
investment takes decades.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:55 am
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BTW, the currency is pounds sterling, or GBP (or similar unofficial
abbreviations) , not lbs, which refers to a measure of weight.

Yes, 95 octane is roughly equivalent to 91 in the US, something I stated
already. This is the 'bog standard' stuff used by almost all cars across
central and western Europe (don't know about eastern Europe and Russia) and
is the most widely available grade.

In the UK we also get higher grades like 98 Octane (Shell Optimax) and 97
(BP's equivalent). Despite the producers' claims for superior performance I
don't think the extra price is worth paying for my circumstances (3.2-l, 218
hp engine, only 5000 miles p.a., and 2.0-l, 122 hp engine, much less
mileage). The 95 is recommended for both cars.

It is rare to see lower grades.

I don't think we have ethanol in the fuel.

DAS

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> By the way, is 95 octane (in the UK) equivalent to 91 octane as marked
> on US/CDN pumps?
>
> Around here, 91 octane is "high-test", with 89 octane in the middle
> and 87 octane as regular (Sunoco might have super-high test - 94
> octane if I'm not mistaken). I put 87 in my 300m.
>
> Price for 89 octane is about 5% more than for 87, and 91 octane is 10%
> more.
>
> I think all grades have 10% ethanol. You guys have ethanol in your
> gas too?
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:28 pm
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> Ethanol is only in the corn producing states of the Midwest, in the East
> we have MBTE in our gas and premium is generally 93 octane not 91.

In what eastern state is premium generally 93? In New York premium is 91
octane.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:39 pm
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On 09/26/05 05:28 pm Peter A. Stavrakoglou tossed the following
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> "General Schvantzkoph" <schvantzkoph.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.09.26.14.24.34.289781@yahoo.com...
>> Ethanol is only in the corn producing states of the Midwest, in the East
>> we have MBTE in our gas and premium is generally 93 octane not 91.
>
> In what eastern state is premium generally 93? In New York premium is 91
> octane.

It's a couple of years now since I lived on Long Island, but I thought
that the Premium there (which I did not use) was 93 octane.


Perce
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:31 pm
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Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
> On 09/26/05 05:28 pm Peter A. Stavrakoglou tossed the following
> ingredients into the ever-growing pot of cybersoup:
>
>> "General Schvantzkoph" <schvantzkoph RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2005.09.26.14.24.34.289781@yahoo.com...
>>
>>> Ethanol is only in the corn producing states of the Midwest, in the East
>>> we have MBTE in our gas and premium is generally 93 octane not 91.
>>
>>
>> In what eastern state is premium generally 93? In New York premium is
>> 91 octane.
>
>
> It's a couple of years now since I lived on Long Island, but I thought
> that the Premium there (which I did not use) was 93 octane.
>
>
> Perce

Here in VA, premium is 91.

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:49 pm
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On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 17:28:49 -0400, Peter A. Stavrakoglou wrote:

>
> "General Schvantzkoph" <schvantzkoph.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> Ethanol is only in the corn producing states of the Midwest, in the East
>> we have MBTE in our gas and premium is generally 93 octane not 91.
>
> In what eastern state is premium generally 93? In New York premium is 91
> octane.

In Mass, NH and Maine it's 93 at Gulf, Mobil and Texaco.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 8:36 pm
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"Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody DeleteThis @NotMyISP.net> wrote in message
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> On 09/26/05 05:28 pm Peter A. Stavrakoglou tossed the following
> ingredients into the ever-growing pot of cybersoup:
>
>> "General Schvantzkoph" <schvantzkoph DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2005.09.26.14.24.34.289781@yahoo.com...
>>> Ethanol is only in the corn producing states of the Midwest, in the East
>>> we have MBTE in our gas and premium is generally 93 octane not 91.
>>
>> In what eastern state is premium generally 93? In New York premium is 91
>> octane.
>
> It's a couple of years now since I lived on Long Island, but I thought
> that the Premium there (which I did not use) was 93 octane.
>
>
> Perce

Premium is 91 on Long Island and has been for a long time.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 8:36 pm
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"General Schvantzkoph" <schvantzkoph.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 17:28:49 -0400, Peter A. Stavrakoglou wrote:
>
>>
>> "General Schvantzkoph" <schvantzkoph.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2005.09.26.14.24.34.289781@yahoo.com...
>>>
>>> Ethanol is only in the corn producing states of the Midwest, in the East
>>> we have MBTE in our gas and premium is generally 93 octane not 91.
>>
>> In what eastern state is premium generally 93? In New York premium is 91
>> octane.
>
> In Mass, NH and Maine it's 93 at Gulf, Mobil and Texaco.

Hmmm. The same stations serve it up at 91 octane here.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:55 am
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The adjectives are irrelevant. Dare I say it, they are marketing hype?

All that matters is the octane number.

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>>>
[...]
>>> In what eastern state is premium generally 93? In New York premium is
>>> 91
>>> octane.
>>
>> In Mass, NH and Maine it's 93 at Gulf, Mobil and Texaco.
>
> Hmmm. The same stations serve it up at 91 octane here.
>
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:55 am
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93 here in NJ.


"Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody.DeleteThis@NotMyISP.net> wrote in message
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> On 09/26/05 05:28 pm Peter A. Stavrakoglou tossed the following
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>
>> "General Schvantzkoph" <schvantzkoph.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2005.09.26.14.24.34.289781@yahoo.com...
>>> Ethanol is only in the corn producing states of the Midwest, in the East
>>> we have MBTE in our gas and premium is generally 93 octane not 91.
>>
>> In what eastern state is premium generally 93? In New York premium is 91
>> octane.
>
> It's a couple of years now since I lived on Long Island, but I thought
> that the Premium there (which I did not use) was 93 octane.
>
>
> Perce
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