205 engine change

A T16 Nah only joking, not for that money anyway. Stick with the Mi16 but try and get a 205 Mi16 loom so you don't have to butcher yours (try an independent Peugeot specialist for a new one).

A GTi6 would be a more powerful engine but would probably be a pig to fit.

If you are getting bigger brakes check that your alloys will actually fit over them, the pepper pots only just fit over the rear callipers from a 1.9GTi: If you have weights on the wheels they break the brake spring and your pads fall out, as I found out not long ago.

Good luck

Streltsky
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> I`ve managed to scrape together £2000 for an engine mod to my
> 205-1.6GTI.... what would be the best option... other than an MI-16

Can't think of any better option than the Mi-16. Would leave you with some
change too.

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>> I`ve managed to scrape together £2000 for an engine mod to my
>> 205-1.6GTI.... what would be the best option... other than an MI-16
>
> Can't think of any better option than the Mi-16. Would leave you with some
> change too.
>
> --
> R
>

So I`m in the South of the UK ( Dorset ).,.. is there any well known people
down here that could do it,., as I know none !
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>> "Paulinho" <senninha1@(sad).btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>>> I`ve managed to scrape together £2000 for an engine mod to my
>>> 205-1.6GTI.... what would be the best option... other than an MI-16
>>
>> Can't think of any better option than the Mi-16. Would leave you with
>> some change too.
>>
>> --
>> R
>>
>
> So I`m in the South of the UK ( Dorset ).,.. is there any well known
> people down here that could do it,., as I know none !
Me
Seriously though, I may know a few people that may know someone so I will
ask around for you.
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>>>> I`ve managed to scrape together £2000 for an engine mod to my
>>>> 205-1.6GTI.... what would be the best option... other than an MI-16
>>>
>>> Can't think of any better option than the Mi-16. Would leave you with
>>> some change too.
>>>
>>> --
>>> R
>>>
>>
>> So I`m in the South of the UK ( Dorset ).,.. is there any well known
>> people down here that could do it,., as I know none !
> Me
> Seriously though, I may know a few people that may know someone so I will
> ask around for you.
>

Thank you, that would be great....
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Hi there,

So far this is what I`ve done to my little Pug 205 GTI 1.6...

Top strut brace,
Lower Strut brace,
Group N strut top mounts,
Piper cross induction kit,
Magnex FULL stainless steel exhaust,
Quick shifter linkage,
Fully polly race bushed ( front and rear ),
Group A rear beam mounts,
Spax Kryton Gas shocks + Springs,
TSW Apex 15" wheels,
Yokahama 195/50x15 A539`s,
New calipers ( standard ),
New discs ( standard ),
Mintex road/rally front pads,
Fully goodrige hoses ( front/rear )
Sabelt 4 point harneses,
Corbora Bucket seats,
Stripped interior,
2nd engine fan fitted in spare space,
Mesh grille,
italia steering wheel...

I think that`s all... I would like bigger brakes but am unsure as to what to
buy seeing that it`s a 1.6 and not a 1.9...
I would also like to buy a reconditioned and lowered rear beam.. but can I
find one...?

How much difference is there really with fitting a Mi-16 engine...?
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"Streltsky" wrote in message

> A T16 Nah only joking, not for that money anyway. Stick with the
> Mi16 but try and get a 205 Mi16 loom so you don't have to butcher
> yours (try an independent Peugeot specialist for a new one).

A Citroen BX16v engine loom will do the trick

> A GTi6 would be a more powerful engine but would probably be a pig to
> fit.

Fits as easily as the Mi16 (XU9J4), but is an XU10 series engine, with a
cast iron block, so is heavier. Also the GTi6 engine won't tune as well, or
as cheaply as the Mi16. The Mi16 is a racing engine down-tuned for the road,
with steel crank, webbed block and huge valve seat inserts that will machine
out easily for bigger valves etc etc.

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> I would like bigger brakes but am unsure as to what to buy seeing that
> it`s a 1.6 and not a 1.9...

For the front, go for Pug 206 Gti 180 front discs and calipers, they are a
bolt on replacement and well worth the effort.

> I would also like to buy a reconditioned and lowered rear beam.. but can I
> find one...?

How about a Pug 309 rear axle, its wider than the 205 item and gives you
rear discs as well.

> How much difference is there really with fitting a Mi-16 engine...?

160 bhp standard, 130lb ft torque. If you get rid of the engine management
and fit the 1.9 dizzy and a set of Webbers you'll be looking at 180bhp. The
engine will go to about 220bhp for about a grand, and on a standard bottom
end. That's up in "Killing Subaru's Dead" category.

Put "205 Mi16" into Google. There is days of reading material there,
including "Autofive" who market a conversion kit.

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> "Streltsky" wrote in message
>
>> A T16 Nah only joking, not for that money anyway. Stick with the
>> Mi16 but try and get a 205 Mi16 loom so you don't have to butcher
>> yours (try an independent Peugeot specialist for a new one).
>
> A Citroen BX16v engine loom will do the trick
>
>> A GTi6 would be a more powerful engine but would probably be a pig to
>> fit.
>
> Fits as easily as the Mi16 (XU9J4), but is an XU10 series engine, with a
> cast iron block, so is heavier. Also the GTi6 engine won't tune as well,
> or as cheaply as the Mi16. The Mi16 is a racing engine down-tuned for the
> road, with steel crank, webbed block and huge valve seat inserts that will
> machine out easily for bigger valves etc etc.
>
> --
> R
>

So an MI16 engine,309 rear beam... and 206 disc.. will they fit my 1.6
GTI...?
Also where can I buy a recondistioned rear beam, as I can`t find anyone..
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Quote:

I would also like to buy a reconditioned and lowered rear beam.. but can I find one...?

A while back I asked my local specialist if they could fit new torsion bars. They replied with "It would be cheaper for us to fit a whole new assembly" not sure how much they would charge but it is probably under £500.
Their website is http://www.citraulix.com. Although they are a Cirtoen specialist they also know their way around Peugeots much more than the dealers.

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How about a Pug 309 rear axle, its wider than the 205 item and gives you rear discs as well.

The 309 has a higher ride height at the rear so I suggest you steer clear of an assembly from them. The 1.9GTi 205 also has a wider rear assembly and rear discs but you will need a pair of inline compensators or a dashboard based adjustable compensator for the discs. I'm not sure how a 1.6GTi rear/front split braking system would cope with rear discs but my 205D (diagonal split) is running fine with rear discs.

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> "" wrote:
> > I`ve managed to scrape together £2000 for an engine mod to my
> > 205-1.6GTI....
> > what would be the best option... other than an MI-16
> >
> > Thanks
>
> A T16 Nah only joking, not for that money anyway. Stick with the
> Mi16 but try and get a 205 Mi16 loom so you don't have to butcher
> yours (try an independent Peugeot specialist for a new one).
>
> A GTi6 would be a more powerful engine but would probably be a pig to
> fit.
>
> If you are getting bigger brakes check that your alloys will actually
> fit over them, the pepper pots only just fit over the rear callipers
> from a 1.9GTi: If you have weights on the wheels they break the brake
> spring and your pads fall out, as I found out not long ago.
>
Also note that there are different varieties of pepperpot alloys. It all
depends on where they were made. There's one set that will not fit over 1.9
GTi front brakes (as I found out) unless you attack the calipers with a
grinder. But the other 2 sets are slightly different and will clear them
(and are also stronger). I've got it written down somewhere if anyone is
interested.
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>> "Streltsky" wrote in message
>>
>>> A T16 Nah only joking, not for that money anyway. Stick with the
>>> Mi16 but try and get a 205 Mi16 loom so you don't have to butcher
>>> yours (try an independent Peugeot specialist for a new one).
>>
>> A Citroen BX16v engine loom will do the trick
>>
>>> A GTi6 would be a more powerful engine but would probably be a pig to
>>> fit.
>>
>> Fits as easily as the Mi16 (XU9J4), but is an XU10 series engine, with a
>> cast iron block, so is heavier. Also the GTi6 engine won't tune as well,
>> or as cheaply as the Mi16. The Mi16 is a racing engine down-tuned for the
>> road, with steel crank, webbed block and huge valve seat inserts that
>> will machine out easily for bigger valves etc etc.
>>
>> --
>> R
>>
>
> So an MI16 engine,309 rear beam... and 206 disc.. will they fit my 1.6
> GTI...?
> Also where can I buy a recondistioned rear beam, as I can`t find anyone..
>
There's a place in Devon somewhere that will fit a recon beam for about
£400. Can find out the name if you like, as I know someone that had it done
on his 309 GTi.

Havent had much like in finding places that will do an Mi16 conversion, as
the people I know that had one, brought the car with the engine done, and
had no further info. But if you wanted to do it yourself (its not *that*
hard) consider talking to Dave Baker about engine upgrades, and he'll supply
you with some good kit and knows his stuff. This article (by him) is a good
read:
http://www.pumaracing.co.uk/pug16v.htm
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[quote]Also note that there are different varieties of pepperpot alloys. It all depends on where they were made. There's one set that will not fit over 1.9 GTi front brakes (as I found out) unless you attack the calipers with a grinder. But the other 2 sets are slightly different and will clear them (and are also stronger). I've got it written down somewhere if anyone is interested.

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Sorry to hijack but I'd like to know about the differant pepper pots. I like the look of them on the 205 and have a set off a 1.6GTi on my 205D but would like to know where I can get ones to fit over the 1.9GTi front calipers I will be getting round to fitting at some point. Are they different diameters? Streltsky

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