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Bob Adkins

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:46 am
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:38 pm
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On Feb 13, 8:46 am, Bob Adkins <bob.adk... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just bought a 2008 Tacoma 4cyl 4a.
>
> I'm pleased with the truck. Sitting at idle, the engine is so smooth
> and quiet that I have to concentrate to detect whether it's running.
>
> I owned an old 92 Pickup for 15 years, and the 22R-E engine was not
> exactly a power house,  but was very reliable.
>
> My question is, what is the genealogy of the 2.7L 159hp 4cyl? Does it
> come directly from the 22R-E block and head, or is it a new design?
> Does it use the same basic block and heads? What major improvements
> does the new engine have, if any, over the old 22R-E?
>
> When I crank it, it sounds just like my old engine. So I guess it has
> some of the 22R-E genes in there somewhere! Smile
>
> Thanks,,,
>  -
>
> Bob

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:06 am
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:04 pm
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Wikipedia.org has them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/22RE#22R




On Feb 13, 5:46 am, Bob Adkins <bob.adk....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just bought a 2008 Tacoma 4cyl 4a.
>
> I'm pleased with the truck. Sitting at idle, the engine is so smooth
> and quiet that I have to concentrate to detect whether it's running.
>
> I owned an old 92 Pickup for 15 years, and the 22R-E engine was not
> exactly a power house, but was very reliable.
>
> My question is, what is the genealogy of the 2.7L 159hp 4cyl? Does it
> come directly from the 22R-E block and head, or is it a new design?
> Does it use the same basic block and heads? What major improvements
> does the new engine have, if any, over the old 22R-E?
>
> When I crank it, it sounds just like my old engine. So I guess it has
> some of the 22R-E genes in there somewhere! Smile
>
> Thanks,,,
> -
>
> Bob
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:50 pm
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Wont need to change the plugs till 100,000 miles and they are not hard to
do. As far as I know there are no parts in the new engine from the old
engine , this engine will serve you better and probably longer with the
same care you gave your old truck. just change the oil every 5000 miles
and coolant every 2-3 years and use the genuine Toyota pink coolant.
Scott

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:54 am
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:48 pm
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Realy, all you need to know is "IT'S A TOYOTA" need anyone say more?

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On Feb 13, 8:46 am, Bob Adkins <bob.adk....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just bought a 2008 Tacoma 4cyl 4a.
>
> I'm pleased with the truck. Sitting at idle, the engine is so smooth
> and quiet that I have to concentrate to detect whether it's running.
>
> I owned an old 92 Pickup for 15 years, and the 22R-E engine was not
> exactly a power house, but was very reliable.
>
> My question is, what is the genealogy of the 2.7L 159hp 4cyl? Does it
> come directly from the 22R-E block and head, or is it a new design?
> Does it use the same basic block and heads? What major improvements
> does the new engine have, if any, over the old 22R-E?
>
> When I crank it, it sounds just like my old engine. So I guess it has
> some of the 22R-E genes in there somewhere! Smile
>
> Thanks,,,
> -
>
> Bob

try to find your spark plugs...
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:15 pm
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I wouldn't say GM was a partner. More like a subsidiary, or underling.
Toyota is mother and gm is bastard child.

"Bob Adkins" <bob.adkins.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:48:59 -0500, "Frank" <frankdross.DeleteThis@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Realy, all you need to know is "IT'S A TOYOTA" need anyone say more?
>
> That doesn't wash with me. I've had nothing but problems with Toyota
> vehicles.
>
> Is it true the 2.7L 4cyl is made by Toyota's partner, GM? It could be
> true, I can't find any proof it's made by Toyota. Very Happy
> -
>
> Bob
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:35 pm
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:50 pm
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Wikipedia hasn't got much yet on the TR series:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_TR_engine

However, the following may help, although the Auzzie model may be
different from other regions:

http://www.pressroom.com.au/press_kit_detail.asp?clientID=2&navSection...11&cate

Toyota HiAce's all-new 2.7-litre Twin Cam Multi-valve petrol engine is
one of the first commercial van engines in Australia with intelligent
infinitely variable inlet timing.

The new 2694cm3 VVT-i equipped 2TR-FE engine supersedes a 2.4-litre
SOHC eight-valve 3RZ-E engine.

The 2.7-litre engine has twin counter-rotating balance shafts and a
torsional damper rubber in the crankshaft pulley to reduce NVH.

The Toyota 2TR-FE engine delivers 111kW of power at 4800rpm and 241Nm
of torque at 3800rpm.

t can be matched to a five-speed manual or electronically controlled
four-speed automatic transmission and can operate on regular ULP or be
converted to LPG operation with Toyota's vapour-injection LPG kit.

Sophisticated features of the 2TR-FE engine include: VVT-i, a linkless
electronic throttle, long-nozzle fuel injectors to reduce wall wetting
and hence emissions and an air-fuel ratio sensor for precise fuel/air
metering.

Reliability and serviceability have been maximised by chain camshaft
drive, maintenance-free valve clearance adjusters and electronic
engine control.

In addition, the new HiAce engine has direct ignition and long-reach
spark plugs for increased serviceability, reliability and performance,
a plastic intake manifold to reduce weight and a stainless-steel
exhaust manifold with three-way catalytic converter for low emissions.

The intelligent Toyota variable valve-timing system (VVT-i) in the 2TR-
FE engine offers infinitely variable inlet valve timing within a range
of 45 degrees (relative to crankshaft angle).

VVT-i optimises performance across the engine revolution range and
minimises emissions.

The Toyota 2TR-FE engine has "square" bore and stroke dimensions of
95mm by 95mm, for a balance of power and torque.

It has a deep-skirt cylinder block to minimise noise and vibration.

The fully balanced crankshaft has roll-finished pin and journal
fillets, for increased strength.

Quality, durability and reliability features of the 2TR-FE engine
include oil jets at the bottom of the cylinder bores, to cool the
under side of the pistons.

The "slanted squish" combustion chamber shape is based on a narrow
included valve angle of 22.85 degrees - to boost torque.

The compact combustion chamber shape offers a low surface to volume
ratio, thereby reducing cooling losses and increasing fuel efficiency.

Toyota engineers have adopted roller rockers (with maintenance-free
valve clearance adjusters) to create the narrow 22.85 valve angle -
while providing sufficient spacing between the camshafts for the
camshaft drive sprockets.

The 2TR-FE engine has high-strength connecting rods and plastic-region
tightening big-end bolts to maximise clamping force.

The upper bearing shells have an oil groove and the lining surface of
the bearings has micro grooves - for optimal oil clearance and hence
improved cold-cranking performance and reduced engine vibration.

The aluminium alloy pistons have resin-coated skirts to reduce
friction and three special features to reduce piston-ring wear -
including anodic oxide on the top ring groove to improve wear
resistance, physical vapour deposition (PVD) coating on the surface of
the number one compression ring and chrome plating on the number two
piston ring.

The 2TR-FE engine has the advanced electrical features of a segment
conductor type alternator and a planetary reduction segment conductor
starter motor - for increased performance and reduced weight.





On Feb 15, 4:54 am, Bob Adkins <bob.adk....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, my old truck had the 22R-E. My new one has the 2TR-FE, and I
> can't find a darn thing about it.
>
> Here's all I can find, actually.
>
> "The 2TR-FE is a 2.7L I4 gasoline engine. It features DOHC, 16 valves
> and VVT-i . Its power is 159 hp (119 kW) @ 5200 rpm, and 180 lbf·ft
> (244 N·m) of torque @ 3800 rpm."
>
> I would like to know a bit about the design and metallurgy. For
> example, is the block aluminum, or cast iron? I assume is uses a
> timing chain rather than a belt. Is the crankshaft forged, or cast?
> That type info, you know?
>
> Any web sites with that type of info would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,,,
> -
>
> Bob
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:06 pm
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Don't think the 2TR engine has anything to do with the closest
displacement GM Vortec 2.9L 4-cyl. The GM engine has exhaust VVT, and
therefore no EGR valve; the Toyota engine has intake VVT.

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2006/06/19/011910.html
http://www.chevrolet.com/pop/colorado/2007/i_4_en.jsp



On Feb 16, 7:20 am, Bob Adkins <bob.adk....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> That doesn't wash with me. I've had nothing but problems with Toyota
> vehicles.
>
> Is it true the 2.7L 4cyl is made by Toyota's partner, GM? It could be
> true, I can't find any proof it's made by Toyota. Very Happy
> -
>
> Bob
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:48 am
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The engine goes back to the T100 of which I have a 1994 so it's been around
a while. The 94 is rated at 150 without variable valve timing. No electronic
throttle, either but it keeps up with everything at 20 mpg around town, 25+
on the freeway.

Carl West
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>>However, the following may help, although the Auzzie model may be
>>different from other regions:
>
> Thank you John! That's by far the best description of the 2TR-FE
> engine I have seen. It's a little scary that I understood every word.
>
> Sounds like the engine is thoroughly modern, for better or worse. I've
> heard it was designed from the ground up as a truck engine. Sure
> enough, the torque is much more impressive than the horsepower.
>
> I'm impressed and a little surprised about the stainless exhaust
> manifold, and a little disappointed about the plastic intake manifold.
> I can't see it lasting more than 10 years.
>
> I still can't determine whether the engine block is cast iron or
> aluminum. I guess I'll have to slide underneath the truck to find out!
>
> Thanks,,,
> -
>
> Bob
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