2000 Camry - smoke coming out

Get your fans working first, you "mechanic" did check-test them to see
they don`t work, right?
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My uneducated thought is a water pump is working or not working, no
imbetween. If thermostat is new, I would consider a radiator that is
crudded up, colapsed or blocked hose. Did this just start or is it
ongoing. look inside the radiator buildup will show on the fins. If it
has not been chemicaly flushed , is dirty and hoses old I would try that
first. If it is aftermarket thermostat New does not mean good, I have
had bad luck with several aftermarket thermostats, take it out and try
it. Did air get bled out, did you check coolant level often when cold.
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<vishnu.veerubhotla.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I made him check the fuse for the fans and now he says that the fuse
> was the problem and the fans are fine. But the car is still
> overheating. So, he is saying that the water pump has the problem
> although there is nothing to prove it. How can I make sure that the
> water pump is what is causing the overheating?
>
> Thanks

With all due respect to your mechanic,..find another one. If your car is
overheating, the faults maybe one or more of these,

-lack of coolant
-pin-holed hoses or old hoses leaking at clips (lose coolant)
- failed pump seal (lose coolant)
-leaking welch plugs in block (lose coolant)
-lack of coolant cooling due radiator clogged after extended use of ordinary
tap water.
-leaking radiator, cracked or holed(lose coolant)
- lack of coolant cooling due fans inoperative
-"blown" headgasket causing coolant loss
-cracked or warped head (lose coolant)



...one of which occurs after the initial overheat and serves to keep the car
losing coolant until its fixed:- ie cracked and or warped head.

The unfortunate thing is , that once an engine has been even moderately
overheated, if it has an alloy or aluminium head, it may need major work and
if not done will continue to cause overheating.

Jason
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"m Ransley" <ransley.RemoveThis@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> My uneducated thought is a water pump is working or not working, no
> imbetween. If thermostat is new, I would consider a radiator that is
> crudded up, colapsed or blocked hose. Did this just start or is it
> ongoing. look inside the radiator buildup will show on the fins. If it
> has not been chemicaly flushed , is dirty and hoses old I would try that
> first. If it is aftermarket thermostat New does not mean good, I have
> had bad luck with several aftermarket thermostats, take it out and try
> it. Did air get bled out, did you check coolant level often when cold.

You added a couple I forgot Mark,..OP take note.

Jason
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> <vishnu.veerubhotla.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> I made him check the fuse for the fans and now he says that the fuse
>> was the problem and the fans are fine. But the car is still
>> overheating. So, he is saying that the water pump has the problem
>> although there is nothing to prove it. How can I make sure that the
>> water pump is what is causing the overheating?
>>
>> Thanks
>
> With all due respect to your mechanic,..find another one. If your car is
> overheating, the faults maybe one or more of these,

Heck, I don't think the mechanic deserves ANY respect. If he immediately
says the owner ought to replace both
fans without finding out whether there is electricity getting to them so
they'll run (a blown fuse, you say) he's going
at things all wrong. When any electrical device doesn't work, the first
thing to check is whether it's getting
the power to run, and in an auto that's the fuse.
If an electrician came to your house and told you that the reason
the TV didn't work is that the unit needs replacing, wouldn't you want him
to first try plugging it in to a different wall
outlet, and check the circuit breakers to make sure one hadn't been tripped?
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"Jason James" <home RemoveThis @work.1.0> wrote in message
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> <vishnu.veerubhotla RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> I made him check the fuse for the fans and now he says that the fuse
>> was the problem and the fans are fine. But the car is still
>> overheating. So, he is saying that the water pump has the problem
>> although there is nothing to prove it. How can I make sure that the
>> water pump is what is causing the overheating?


Another thought. I realize it is a possibility that the water pump has
"gone west" but with less than 60K miles
and a 2000 model Camry, I think it's highly doubtful that the water pump is
at fault. Mine was fine when
I replaced it at 105 K, when I changed timing belt. It sounds more like a
collapsed hose, pinching off the
circulation of coolant. or a bad thermostat that is not opening properly.
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> > <vishnu.veerubhotla RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >> I made him check the fuse for the fans and now he says that the fuse
> >> was the problem and the fans are fine. But the car is still
> >> overheating. So, he is saying that the water pump has the problem
> >> although there is nothing to prove it. How can I make sure that the
> >> water pump is what is causing the overheating?
>
>
> Another thought. I realize it is a possibility that the water pump has
> "gone west" but with less than 60K miles
> and a 2000 model Camry, I think it's highly doubtful that the water pump
is
> at fault. Mine was fine when
> I replaced it at 105 K, when I changed timing belt. It sounds more like a
> collapsed hose, pinching off the
> circulation of coolant. or a bad thermostat that is not opening
properly.
>
Recently replaced the first water pump on the '91/200,000km. It began to
leak badly which is usually the case, unless bearings go first. The actual
impeller is usually ok even after the rest has worn out. One fan motor might
fail, but both at the same time??
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> > <vishnu.veerubhotla RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >> I made him check the fuse for the fans and now he says that the fuse
> >> was the problem and the fans are fine. But the car is still
> >> overheating. So, he is saying that the water pump has the problem
> >> although there is nothing to prove it. How can I make sure that the
> >> water pump is what is causing the overheating?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >
> > With all due respect to your mechanic,..find another one. If your car is
> > overheating, the faults maybe one or more of these,
>
> Heck, I don't think the mechanic deserves ANY respect. If he immediately
> says the owner ought to replace both
> fans without finding out whether there is electricity getting to them so
> they'll run (a blown fuse, you say) he's going
> at things all wrong. When any electrical device doesn't work, the first
> thing to check is whether it's getting
> the power to run, and in an auto that's the fuse.
> If an electrician came to your house and told you that the reason
> the TV didn't work is that the unit needs replacing, wouldn't you want him
> to first try plugging it in to a different wall
> outlet, and check the circuit breakers to make sure one hadn't been
tripped?

True,..the mechanic is guessing rather than analysing.

Jason
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> > <vishnu.veerubhotla DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >> I made him check the fuse for the fans and now he says that the fuse
> >> was the problem and the fans are fine. But the car is still
> >> overheating. So, he is saying that the water pump has the problem
> >> although there is nothing to prove it. How can I make sure that the
> >> water pump is what is causing the overheating?
>
>
> Another thought. I realize it is a possibility that the water pump has
> "gone west" but with less than 60K miles
> and a 2000 model Camry, I think it's highly doubtful that the water pump
is
> at fault. Mine was fine when
> I replaced it at 105 K, when I changed timing belt. It sounds more like a
> collapsed hose, pinching off the
> circulation of coolant. or a bad thermostat that is not opening
properly.

Yeah, its rare for a w/pump to actually stop pumping. When they do, its
usually the impellor loose on its shaft. I saw a Volvo do that once,

Its also possible for the bottom hose (on the radiator) to collapse and
block coolant flow. The reason is, there's suction occuring there courtesy
of the pump. Thats why manufactrers install a spring inside some bottom
hoses to prevent that happening.

Unfortunately, a lot of people fail to appreciate the damage which can occur
to an alloy head after even a moderate overheat. A cracked or warped head
then causes major cooling problems.

Jason
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Jason James wrote:
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> Yeah, its rare for a w/pump to actually stop pumping. When they do,
> its usually the impellor loose on its shaft. I saw a Volvo do that
> once,
>
snip

Jason,
I worked on a (IIRC) 1998 or 99 Ford Taurus appx 3 yrs ago that was
overheating intermittantly. The pressure cap is on the overflow tank, which
is pressurized along with the radiator. Due to this I couldn't see if
coolant started to flow on warmup but with a thermometer found little
cooling past the water pump and thermostat. When I tore it down the ends of
the stamped steel impellers were rotted almost completely away due to lack
of coolant change and electrolysis. Also, like you, I've seen a few of the
impellers come off the shaft as well, causing the same type problem. It's
amazing how well newer engines will cool with a problem like this, used to
be they would erupt like Old Faithful.
Dave
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Overpressurization that blew off the hose? Check the radiator cap.
Pressure build up should force the coolant into the reservoir (and then
overflow), but blowing off hoses.
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How much antifreeze do you use, antifreeze increases boiling point, 50%
is recomended but more can overheat a motor as antifreeze does not
transfer heat as well as water.
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> How much antifreeze do you use, antifreeze increases boiling point, 50%
> is recomended but more can overheat a motor as antifreeze does not
> transfer heat as well as water.
>
What it says on the bottle - they vary, some are not diluted others maybe
75% water.
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