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rekelley

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:48 pm
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i have a 2000 dakota with a 4.7 and it needs to be replaced. can i swap the
4.7 with a 5.9 without much trouble?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:18 pm
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"rekelley" <ronkelley_1 RemoveThis @netzero.com> wrote in message
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>i have a 2000 dakota with a 4.7 and it needs to be replaced. can i swap the
> 4.7 with a 5.9 without much trouble?
>

According to some here, a engine swap is taboo. <GBMFG>

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:36 pm
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On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:48:40 -0500, "rekelley" <ronkelley_1.DeleteThis@netzero.com> wrote:

>i have a 2000 dakota with a 4.7 and it needs to be replaced. can i swap the
>4.7 with a 5.9 without much trouble?

Just a guess, but I'd think that the computers were different?


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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:44 am
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"rekelley" <ronkelley_1.RemoveThis@netzero.com> wrote in message
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>i have a 2000 dakota with a 4.7 and it needs to be replaced. can i swap the
> 4.7 with a 5.9 without much trouble?
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the 5.9 will fit under the hood but there will be a few difficulties. pcm
and motor mounts will have to change and possibly the transmission. what
tranny do you have. a good many parts will interchange between the two.
your current radiator, alternator, a/c compressor, etc should swap over.


rather than the 5.9 liter 360 have you considered a 5.2 liter 318 swap?
that would actually be easier and give you plenty of power to move a dakota
about town. there are tons of dakotas with 318's in the junkyards so
tracking down parts would be easier.

try this url http://www.engine-swaps.com/ they have parts to even help you
shoehorn a 440 into a dakota. IMHO the 5.2 would be the most bang for the
buck in a dakota.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:03 am
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rekelley wrote:
> i have a 2000 dakota with a 4.7 and it needs to be replaced. can i swap the
> 4.7 with a 5.9 without much trouble?
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Possibly. The 5.9 was a factory option, so you know
it will fit. The best way to do a swap like that is to
find a donor that you can pull all the parts from.
There were very few Dakotas built in 2000 with a 5.9,
so finding a donor might be tough. OTOH, there are
lots of 5.9 Rams built. The motor mounts might be
differant, but the rest of the parts should be pretty
much the same.

The transmissions were distinctly differant between
the 4.7 and 5.9. The 4.7 had a 5 speed, with 2 second
gears and an OD. The 5.9 had a simple 4 speed OD.
They probably bolt up without problems, but the ECU's
will be differant. You'll probably need the donor
trans as well.


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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:04 pm
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> and motor mounts will have to change and possibly the transmission.

Definitely the transmission. He's got a 45RFE, which isn't going to bolt up
to an LA block. He'll need a 4xRE (not to mention a 45RFE isn't going to
work with a PCM for a 5.2/5.9, either).
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:09 am
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"Tom Lawrence" <tlawrence5.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>> and motor mounts will have to change and possibly the transmission.
>
> Definitely the transmission. He's got a 45RFE, which isn't going to bolt
> up to an LA block. He'll need a 4xRE (not to mention a 45RFE isn't going
> to work with a PCM for a 5.2/5.9, either).
>
>

i was pretty sure of that, but not 100%. i have never owned one of those
newfangledy small v-8's. i bet finding a salvaged dakota with a 5.2 for a
donor vehicle would be easy enough though.

both of my dakotas have the magnum v-6 and if they ever get tired i am going
to just rebuild the stock blocks and just add a some wheaties to them. the
combination of fuel mileage and dependability of my two dakotas would be
foolish to change too much. when i need extra ponys i just hop into one of
my full size trucks.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:59 pm
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mac davis wrote:
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> On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:48:40 -0500, "rekelley" <ronkelley_1.TakeThisOut@netzero.com> wrote:
>
> >i have a 2000 dakota with a 4.7 and it needs to be replaced. can i swap the
> >4.7 with a 5.9 without much trouble?
>
> Just a guess, but I'd think that the computers were different?
>
> mac
>
> Please remove splinters before emailing

I think the block is different too.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:59 pm
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Bill Dukenfield wrote:
>> Just a guess, but I'd think that the computers were different?
>
> I think the block is different too.

Now that's funny.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:03 am
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LOL
"Nosey" <kfrei43.TakeThisOut@removethis.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Bill Dukenfield wrote:
>>> Just a guess, but I'd think that the computers were different?
>>
>> I think the block is different too.
>
> Now that's funny.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:24 pm
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On Jan 9, 5:48 pm, "rekelley" <ronkelle... RemoveThis @netzero.com> wrote:
> i have a 2000 dakota with a 4.7 and it needs to be replaced. can i swap the
> 4.7 with a 5.9 without much trouble?
>

Even if it is possible, do you really want to feed that much fuel into
it? I had a '02 Dakota 5.9 and it was slightly better than 12MPG.
Now I have a '99 Grand Cherokee 4.7L and I like the 4.7 better.
Better mileage. More top end power but less low end grunt.

Of course, it will cost a lot more to rebuild the 4.7 when it wears
out, which might be why you asked the question to begin with.

If you get a crashed donor truck and have enough time, it can
certainly be done, but there has to be better alternatives.
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