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Since: Aug 30, 2005 Posts: 5
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:56 pm
Post subject: After 20 yrs. must say,BYE, BYE to Chrysler Archived from groups: rec>autos>makers>chrysler (more info?)
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In a way it may be sad to say after owning Chrysler vehicles it's now
time for me to say goodby,i did enjoy owning them but IMO it has come
down to this:
Chrysler has been having some of the same problems over the past years
with some of the same models.
and with the problems that they have been having over the past years
they STILL continue to use the SAME parts and have not done anything
to improve them.
here's one example:
i have a 2001' T&C 3.8 and have gone through 4 rack& pinions
3 sets of front struts
2 alternators
and not to mention a good number of recalls and service bulletins
i would also like to ask your opinion on this:
would you pay an esimated cost of 4-5K if you were to purchase a new
vehicle with much more better quality and durable parts knowing that
you will NOT being having these type of reocuring problems.
Thank
You
Earl
Hello TOYOTA & HONDA >> Stay informed about: After 20 yrs. must say,BYE, BYE to Chrysler |
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Since: Jan 11, 2006 Posts: 17
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:00 pm
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Chrysler will not miss you.
On Feb 16, 6:56�pm, "Bentracer and Bentrider" <lowbi....RemoveThis@comcast.net>
wrote:
> In a way it may be sad to say after owning Chrysler vehicles it's now
> time for me to say goodby,i did enjoy owning them but IMO it has come
> down to this:
> Chrysler has been having some of the same problems over the past years
> with some of the same models.
> and with the problems that they have been having over the past years
> they STILL continue to use the SAME parts and have not done anything
> to improve them.
> here's one example:
> i have a 2001' T&C 3.8 and have gone through 4 rack& pinions
> 3 sets of front struts
> 2 alternators
> and not to mention a good number of recalls and service bulletins
I have one also. 90,000 miles. Original rack, original struts,
original alternator. Original transaxle. Sold my '96 with 172,000
miles. Same story. The '89, sad to say, did have transaxle problems
until I rebuilt it myself. I put a little over 200,000 on it. Your
problems are very most likely either imagined or self-caused.
>
> i would also like to ask your opinion on this:
> would you pay an esimated cost of 4-5K if you were to purchase a new
> vehicle with much more better quality and durable parts knowing that
> you will NOT being having these type of reocuring problems.
>
> Thank
> You
> Earl
I would like to ask why you failed to learn how to read and write
English.
>
> Hello TOYOTA & HONDA
You are exactly what they are looking for. Excellent matchup. >> Stay informed about: After 20 yrs. must say,BYE, BYE to Chrysler |
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Since: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 498
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:29 pm
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"Bentracer and Bentrider" <lowbike1.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> In a way it may be sad to say after owning Chrysler vehicles it's now
> time for me to say goodby,i did enjoy owning them but IMO it has come
> down to this:
Well, Earl, sounds like you buy lousy auto parts. But I guess that's okay.
Your question about this 4 to 5k dollars is interesting. My answer is, why
not buy an entire car for that price, knowing you won't have recurring
problems? I only pay $5k for a Chrysler, because they depreciate like crazy
(that's good). Like, for instance, you could buy a 99 Concord right now with
60k miles on it for $5k. That's about what they cost. Call me crazy, but I
can drive a car like that for about 5 or 10 years and not do much repair at
all. In fact I'm looking for one right now. I've got a 94 LHS with 156k on
it that needs to go to the junkyard. >> Stay informed about: After 20 yrs. must say,BYE, BYE to Chrysler |
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Since: Feb 17, 2007 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:43 am
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On 16 Feb 2007 16:56:23 -0800, "Bentracer and Bentrider"
<lowbike1 RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:
>In a way it may be sad to say after owning Chrysler vehicles it's now
>time for me to say goodby,i did enjoy owning them but IMO it has come
>down to this:
>Chrysler has been having some of the same problems over the past years
>with some of the same models.
>and with the problems that they have been having over the past years
>they STILL continue to use the SAME parts and have not done anything
>to improve them.
>here's one example:
>i have a 2001' T&C 3.8 and have gone through 4 rack& pinions
>3 sets of front struts
>2 alternators
>and not to mention a good number of recalls and service bulletins
>
>i would also like to ask your opinion on this:
>would you pay an esimated cost of 4-5K if you were to purchase a new
>vehicle with much more better quality and durable parts knowing that
>you will NOT being having these type of reocuring problems.
>
> Thank
> You
> Earl
>
> Hello TOYOTA & HONDA
I would say that your experence is atypical.
Enjoy your honota. >> Stay informed about: After 20 yrs. must say,BYE, BYE to Chrysler |
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Since: Nov 13, 2006 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:43 am
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Well I have a 2000 Grand Caravan with over 160000k and it has cost me 1
water pump and 1 swaybar to Strut link in over 6 years so in my opinion, no
I would not spend 4-5000 more to save the $130 those parts cost me. Of
course this van has seen regular maintenace costs like oil changes, brakes,
tires, transmission fluid changes, acc belt and a new battery. I am sure
after buying your Honda or Toyota, you will be found complaining about any
issues you have with them also.
"rav" <none DeleteThis @none.net> wrote in message
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> On 16 Feb 2007 16:56:23 -0800, "Bentracer and Bentrider"
> <lowbike1 DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote:
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>>In a way it may be sad to say after owning Chrysler vehicles it's now
>>time for me to say goodby,i did enjoy owning them but IMO it has come
>>down to this:
>>Chrysler has been having some of the same problems over the past years
>>with some of the same models.
>>and with the problems that they have been having over the past years
>>they STILL continue to use the SAME parts and have not done anything
>>to improve them.
>>here's one example:
>>i have a 2001' T&C 3.8 and have gone through 4 rack& pinions
>>3 sets of front struts
>>2 alternators
>>and not to mention a good number of recalls and service bulletins
>>
>>i would also like to ask your opinion on this:
>>would you pay an esimated cost of 4-5K if you were to purchase a new
>>vehicle with much more better quality and durable parts knowing that
>>you will NOT being having these type of reocuring problems.
>>
>> Thank
>> You
>> Earl
>>
>> Hello TOYOTA & HONDA
>
> I would say that your experence is atypical.
>
> Enjoy your honota.
> >> Stay informed about: After 20 yrs. must say,BYE, BYE to Chrysler |
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Since: Aug 30, 2005 Posts: 5
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:23 am
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On Feb 16, 10:29 pm, "Joe" <J....DeleteThis@dontspam.net> wrote:
> "Bentracer and Bentrider" <lowbi....DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in messagenews:1171673783.090302.126880@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
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> > In a way it may be sad to say after owning Chrysler vehicles it's now
> > time for me to say goodby,i did enjoy owning them but IMO it has come
> > down to this:
>
> Well, Earl, sounds like you buy lousy auto parts. But I guess that's okay.
>
> Your question about this 4 to 5k dollars is interesting. My answer is, why
> not buy an entire car for that price, knowing you won't have recurring
> problems? I only pay $5k for a Chrysler, because they depreciate like crazy
> (that's good). Like, for instance, you could buy a 99 Concord right now with
> 60k miles on it for $5k. That's about what they cost. Call me crazy, but I
> can drive a car like that for about 5 or 10 years and not do much repair at
> all. In fact I'm looking for one right now. I've got a 94 LHS with 156k on
> it that needs to go to the junkyard.
sorry to say that all these peplacement parts were installed by the
dealer. >> Stay informed about: After 20 yrs. must say,BYE, BYE to Chrysler |
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Since: Jun 01, 2004 Posts: 107
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:36 am
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Joe wrote:
> "Bentracer and Bentrider" <lowbike1.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1171673783.090302.126880@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>> In a way it may be sad to say after owning Chrysler vehicles it's now
>> time for me to say goodby,i did enjoy owning them but IMO it has come
>> down to this:
>
> Well, Earl, sounds like you buy lousy auto parts. But I guess that's okay.
>
> Your question about this 4 to 5k dollars is interesting. My answer is, why
> not buy an entire car for that price, knowing you won't have recurring
> problems? I only pay $5k for a Chrysler, because they depreciate like crazy
> (that's good). Like, for instance, you could buy a 99 Concord right now with
> 60k miles on it for $5k. That's about what they cost. Call me crazy, but I
> can drive a car like that for about 5 or 10 years and not do much repair at
> all. In fact I'm looking for one right now. I've got a 94 LHS with 156k on
> it that needs to go to the junkyard.
Hi Joe...
Can't tell from your headers where in the world you are, but if you're
anywhere near me I'd like to buy a couple of parts from you before you
ship it off... (I have a just like new 94 lhs)
I'm in Winnipeg, Canada.
Thanks, and take care.
Ken >> Stay informed about: After 20 yrs. must say,BYE, BYE to Chrysler |
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Since: Dec 03, 2004 Posts: 1706
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:43 am
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"Bentracer and Bentrider" <lowbike1.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1171673783.090302.126880@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> In a way it may be sad to say after owning Chrysler vehicles it's now
> time for me to say goodby,i did enjoy owning them but IMO it has come
> down to this:
> Chrysler has been having some of the same problems over the past years
> with some of the same models.
> and with the problems that they have been having over the past years
> they STILL continue to use the SAME parts and have not done anything
> to improve them.
> here's one example:
> i have a 2001' T&C 3.8 and have gone through 4 rack& pinions
> 3 sets of front struts
> 2 alternators
> and not to mention a good number of recalls and service bulletins
>
If you went thru 3 sets of struts and 2 alternators you will have the same
problem with your toyota because where ever you are taking you car to get
serviced they are taking you to the cleaners or just selling you cheap
aftermarket parts. Chrysler does not have a problem with alternators or
struts or shocks. yes, there are issues with leaking power sterring racks on
the newer models
so hold on to your reciepts with your rice bucket as well.
Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech
> i would also like to ask your opinion on this:
> would you pay an esimated cost of 4-5K if you were to purchase a new
> vehicle with much more better quality and durable parts knowing that
> you will NOT being having these type of reocuring problems.
>
> Thank
> You
> Earl
>
> Hello TOYOTA & HONDA
> >> Stay informed about: After 20 yrs. must say,BYE, BYE to Chrysler |
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Since: Oct 08, 2005 Posts: 191
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:45 am
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must have been mopar parts instead of the life time parts
Bentracer and Bentrider wrote:
> In a way it may be sad to say after owning Chrysler vehicles it's now
> time for me to say goodby,i did enjoy owning them but IMO it has come
> down to this:
> Chrysler has been having some of the same problems over the past years
> with some of the same models.
> and with the problems that they have been having over the past years
> they STILL continue to use the SAME parts and have not done anything
> to improve them.
> here's one example:
> i have a 2001' T&C 3.8 and have gone through 4 rack& pinions
> 3 sets of front struts
> 2 alternators
> and not to mention a good number of recalls and service bulletins
>
> i would also like to ask your opinion on this:
> would you pay an esimated cost of 4-5K if you were to purchase a new
> vehicle with much more better quality and durable parts knowing that
> you will NOT being having these type of reocuring problems.
>
> Thank
> You
> Earl
>
> Hello TOYOTA & HONDA >> Stay informed about: After 20 yrs. must say,BYE, BYE to Chrysler |
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Since: Oct 08, 2005 Posts: 191
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:46 am
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just so you know the cars i have been working on most lately is hondas and
toyotas then gms all for coolant leaks and timing belts
Bentracer and Bentrider wrote:
> In a way it may be sad to say after owning Chrysler vehicles it's now
> time for me to say goodby,i did enjoy owning them but IMO it has come
> down to this:
> Chrysler has been having some of the same problems over the past years
> with some of the same models.
> and with the problems that they have been having over the past years
> they STILL continue to use the SAME parts and have not done anything
> to improve them.
> here's one example:
> i have a 2001' T&C 3.8 and have gone through 4 rack& pinions
> 3 sets of front struts
> 2 alternators
> and not to mention a good number of recalls and service bulletins
>
> i would also like to ask your opinion on this:
> would you pay an esimated cost of 4-5K if you were to purchase a new
> vehicle with much more better quality and durable parts knowing that
> you will NOT being having these type of reocuring problems.
>
> Thank
> You
> Earl
>
> Hello TOYOTA & HONDA >> Stay informed about: After 20 yrs. must say,BYE, BYE to Chrysler |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:51 am
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"philthy" <dbrider.DeleteThis@cac.net> wrote in message
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> must have been mopar parts instead of the life time parts
>
> Bentracer and Bentrider wrote:
>
> > In a way it may be sad to say after owning Chrysler vehicles it's now
> > time for me to say goodby,i did enjoy owning them but IMO it has come
> > down to this:
> > Chrysler has been having some of the same problems over the past years
> > with some of the same models.
> > and with the problems that they have been having over the past years
> > they STILL continue to use the SAME parts and have not done anything
> > to improve them.
> > here's one example:
> > i have a 2001' T&C 3.8 and have gone through 4 rack& pinions
> > 3 sets of front struts
> > 2 alternators
> > and not to mention a good number of recalls and service bulletins
> >
> > i would also like to ask your opinion on this:
> > would you pay an esimated cost of 4-5K if you were to purchase a new
> > vehicle with much more better quality and durable parts knowing that
> > you will NOT being having these type of reocuring problems.
> >
> > Thank
> > You
> > Earl
> >
> > Hello TOYOTA & HONDA
>
Hey dirty, the lifetime parts you purchase are the ones that continue to
fail. They are made cheap, and when they call them reman... all they do is
clean, paint and resell. They can afford to give you parts for life because
they are so cheap. The customer looses out when he has to pay the labor or
even do the labor himself over and over.
Something to think about
Glenn >> Stay informed about: After 20 yrs. must say,BYE, BYE to Chrysler |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:02 am
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wow, I bet Dr. Z is sad to lose you, I think I saw his stock go down a point
yesterday because of this newsgroup post. Hey but my 87 5th ave is still
running strong, only 74k on it though.
"Bentracer and Bentrider" <lowbike1 RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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> In a way it may be sad to say after owning Chrysler vehicles it's now
> time for me to say goodby,i did enjoy owning them but IMO it has come
> down to this:
> Chrysler has been having some of the same problems over the past years
> with some of the same models.
> and with the problems that they have been having over the past years
> they STILL continue to use the SAME parts and have not done anything
> to improve them.
> here's one example:
> i have a 2001' T&C 3.8 and have gone through 4 rack& pinions
> 3 sets of front struts
> 2 alternators
> and not to mention a good number of recalls and service bulletins
>
> i would also like to ask your opinion on this:
> would you pay an esimated cost of 4-5K if you were to purchase a new
> vehicle with much more better quality and durable parts knowing that
> you will NOT being having these type of reocuring problems.
>
> Thank
> You
> Earl
>
> Hello TOYOTA & HONDA
> >> Stay informed about: After 20 yrs. must say,BYE, BYE to Chrysler |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:27 pm
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why not spend $1200 more for a long service agreement
"Bentracer and Bentrider" <lowbike1 DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1171673783.090302.126880@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> In a way it may be sad to say after owning Chrysler vehicles it's now
> time for me to say goodby,i did enjoy owning them but IMO it has come
> down to this:
> Chrysler has been having some of the same problems over the past years
> with some of the same models.
> and with the problems that they have been having over the past years
> they STILL continue to use the SAME parts and have not done anything
> to improve them.
> here's one example:
> i have a 2001' T&C 3.8 and have gone through 4 rack& pinions
> 3 sets of front struts
> 2 alternators
> and not to mention a good number of recalls and service bulletins
>
> i would also like to ask your opinion on this:
> would you pay an esimated cost of 4-5K if you were to purchase a new
> vehicle with much more better quality and durable parts knowing that
> you will NOT being having these type of reocuring problems.
>
> Thank
> You
> Earl
>
> Hello TOYOTA & HONDA
> >> Stay informed about: After 20 yrs. must say,BYE, BYE to Chrysler |
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Since: Jul 25, 2006 Posts: 67
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 1:04 am
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In article <1171673783.090302.126880.TakeThisOut@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
"Bentracer and Bentrider" <lowbike1.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:
> Hello TOYOTA & HONDA
I just looked at the Honda CR-V.
A very interesting vehicle, a mid sized station Wagon.
Very well equipped. >> Stay informed about: After 20 yrs. must say,BYE, BYE to Chrysler |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:48 am
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funny u say that because half the time the parts for chryslers. i get have
factory parts tags numbers on them such as the speed sensor i just put in a
rear axle of a 98 dodge truk that even came with the revised jumper harness !
and i can assure everyone one here that repairs done at the dealer result in
more return trips for proper re repairs with even higher costs than occurs
with after market shops and parts something to think about
maxpower wrote:
> "philthy" <dbrider RemoveThis @cac.net> wrote in message
> news:45D714FC.262A4653@cac.net...
> > must have been mopar parts instead of the life time parts
> >
> > Bentracer and Bentrider wrote:
> >
> > > In a way it may be sad to say after owning Chrysler vehicles it's now
> > > time for me to say goodby,i did enjoy owning them but IMO it has come
> > > down to this:
> > > Chrysler has been having some of the same problems over the past years
> > > with some of the same models.
> > > and with the problems that they have been having over the past years
> > > they STILL continue to use the SAME parts and have not done anything
> > > to improve them.
> > > here's one example:
> > > i have a 2001' T&C 3.8 and have gone through 4 rack& pinions
> > > 3 sets of front struts
> > > 2 alternators
> > > and not to mention a good number of recalls and service bulletins
> > >
> > > i would also like to ask your opinion on this:
> > > would you pay an esimated cost of 4-5K if you were to purchase a new
> > > vehicle with much more better quality and durable parts knowing that
> > > you will NOT being having these type of reocuring problems.
> > >
> > > Thank
> > > You
> > > Earl
> > >
> > > Hello TOYOTA & HONDA
> >
> Hey dirty, the lifetime parts you purchase are the ones that continue to
> fail. They are made cheap, and when they call them reman... all they do is
> clean, paint and resell. They can afford to give you parts for life because
> they are so cheap. The customer looses out when he has to pay the labor or
> even do the labor himself over and over.
> Something to think about
>
> Glenn >> Stay informed about: After 20 yrs. must say,BYE, BYE to Chrysler |
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