1997 Buick Park Avenue

No, the mount must be loosened/disconnected, engine lifted slightly and the
belt slips under the space created.
<ryel RemoveThis @indy.rr.com1997> wrote in message
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> Can't figure out how to remove and replace the Serpentine belt. Looks
> like the entire engine mount has to come off. Am I missing the boat
> and the operation is not that difficult? Bob
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"Shep" <djsljsrn DeleteThis @capital.net> wrote in message
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> No, the mount must be loosened/disconnected, engine lifted slightly and
> the belt slips under the space created.
> <ryel DeleteThis @indy.rr.com1997> wrote in message
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>> Can't figure out how to remove and replace the Serpentine belt. Looks
>> like the entire engine mount has to come off. Am I missing the boat
>> and the operation is not that difficult? Bob
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Yeah, I had a '97 Park Avenue. Great design, that belt installation
procedure!
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On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:00:12 -0400, "Bishoop" <none RemoveThis @nowhere.none>
wrote:
Could you add more detail? Are you referring to the "mount to frame"
connection or the "mount to engine 3 bolt" connections? Also the belt
appears trapped within the 3-pronged engine mount bracket. I know the
lower bolt has a removable spacer for access, but the upper connection
is a stud---if this were a bolt and by removing it the bracket would
be free to pull away from engine slightly to slip belt thru....??..Bob
>
>"Shep" <djsljsrn RemoveThis @capital.net> wrote in message
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>> No, the mount must be loosened/disconnected, engine lifted slightly and
>> the belt slips under the space created.
>> <ryel RemoveThis @indy.rr.com1997> wrote in message
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>>> Can't figure out how to remove and replace the Serpentine belt. Looks
>>> like the entire engine mount has to come off. Am I missing the boat
>>> and the operation is not that difficult? Bob
>>>
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>Yeah, I had a '97 Park Avenue. Great design, that belt installation
>procedure!
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ryel.DeleteThis@indy.rr.com wrote:

> Could you add more detail? Are you referring to the "mount to frame"
> connection or the "mount to engine 3 bolt" connections? Also the belt
> appears trapped within the 3-pronged engine mount bracket. I know the
> lower bolt has a removable spacer for access, but the upper connection
> is a stud---if this were a bolt and by removing it the bracket would
> be free to pull away from engine slightly to slip belt thru....??..Bob

The lower bolt (really a stud with a nut on it) and spacer is where
you want to remove the belt. This is actually fairly simple. You can
loosen the upper nut, don't bother with the one that is behind the
ps pulley unless absolutely necessary. Now go down to the lower
bolt/stud (pulling the right wheel and splash shield give you much
better access), remove the nut, remove the stud (the end of the
stud is an inverted torx), and remove the spacer. You will notice
that the weight of the engine will bow the lower part of the mount
out slightly when you remove the nut. This makes it easy to remove
and re-install the spacer. Once the spacer is out, belt comes out
easily.

Ian
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Shep wrote:
> No, the mount must be loosened/disconnected, engine lifted slightly and the
> belt slips under the space created.
> <ryel.DeleteThis@indy.rr.com1997> wrote in message
> news:5bei23doksipi9farn7nahjd4svn18jh6h@4ax.com...
>> Can't figure out how to remove and replace the Serpentine belt. Looks
>> like the entire engine mount has to come off. Am I missing the boat
>> and the operation is not that difficult? Bob
>>


Yikes, that is nuts. Yesterday I helped my friend replace the
serpentine belt, belt tensioner and idler wheel on his the Grand
Marquis. It took more time to go to the auto parts store to buy the
parts than it did to do the job. Belt changeover is a less than five
minute job, and should be.

GM has engineered difficult maintenance into many of their modern
vehicles. Our 2002 Olds minivan required removing the upper engine
mounts and rotating the engine forward just to get at the rear spark
plugs. Don't they have any maintainability engineers looking after the
details???? They seem to have the idea that "oh well, belts and spark
plugs last a long time these days, so no reason to make the job
reasonably easy".
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<HLS RemoveThis @nospam.nix> wrote in news:eAcWh.408$Ea5.283
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> Hells Holiday Inn is booked up for a select bunch of GMengineers. Dont
> bother to request
> a reservation
>

"Hells Holiday Inn is booked up for a select bunch of GMengineers. Dont
bother to request
a reservation"...................HLS

hopefully the guru's of GM will simply wait out their time in a special
purgatory where they have to bend over 8 hrs a day replaceing the oh so
special lower intake gaskets on the 3.1 'floating manifold' misconception
along with jackass ideas like the belt replacement mentioned, that should
have been oh so simple.......before all jump up to defend GM, i agree
that other makers screw the mechanics that later have to work on their
stuff also! GM DIDNT WRITE THE WHOLE BOOK ON CRAP ENGINEERING, THEY JUST
HAVE THE LARGEST CHAPTER...........(quad 4 water pump
anyone?)................kjun
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 03:52:12 GMT, "shiden_kai" <V-L-M.RemoveThis@hotma1l.com>
wrote:

>ryel@indy.rr.com wrote:
>
>> Could you add more detail? Are you referring to the "mount to frame"
>> connection or the "mount to engine 3 bolt" connections? Also the belt
>> appears trapped within the 3-pronged engine mount bracket. I know the
>> lower bolt has a removable spacer for access, but the upper connection
>> is a stud---if this were a bolt and by removing it the bracket would
>> be free to pull away from engine slightly to slip belt thru....??..Bob
>
>The lower bolt (really a stud with a nut on it) and spacer is where
>you want to remove the belt. This is actually fairly simple. You can
>loosen the upper nut, don't bother with the one that is behind the
>ps pulley unless absolutely necessary. Now go down to the lower
>bolt/stud (pulling the right wheel and splash shield give you much
>better access), remove the nut, remove the stud (the end of the
>stud is an inverted torx), and remove the spacer. You will notice
>that the weight of the engine will bow the lower part of the mount
>out slightly when you remove the nut. This makes it easy to remove
>and re-install the spacer. Once the spacer is out, belt comes out
>easily.

Thanks for such a detailed instruction. Thought I'd let you know a
problem we encountered removing the stud. It measured 5 and 1/2
inches long and the sleeve was 3 1/2. Had to drill a hole in the
metal behind to turn the stud all the way out. Again, many Thank's
>
>Ian
>
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