1995 Subaru Legacy starting problems

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errksnerk wrote:

> My legacy is having issues! It often will not start. It turns over
> but there is no clicking noise. I also sometimes smell gas and
> getting poor gas mileage as well. If it will not start i let it sit
> and after 30 minutes or so it will start again. If the motor is cold
> it usually starts. Also, when i come to a stop sign it idles way down
> ( 200-300) RPM’s. I have to give it gas when stopped to keep it from
> stalling, and if it dies at this point it is difficult to get it to
> start again. I am a college student with a limited income please
> help! Advise i have gotten so far is: Crankshaft (crank angle)
> position sensor, leaky injector, and bad ground. I don’t know where
> to start, please help.
>
> starving college student
>
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I live in Reno Nevada. The check engine light is on. Should i go to a dealership or will any mechanic do?
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errksnerk wrote:

> I live in Reno Nevada. The check engine light is on. Should i go to a
> dealership or will any mechanic do?
>
> "Carl 1 Lucky Texan" wrote:
> > errksnerk wrote:
> >
> > > My legacy is having issues! It often will not start. It
> > turns over
> > > but there is no clicking noise. I also sometimes smell gas
> > and
> > > getting poor gas mileage as well. If it will not start i
> > let it sit
> > > and after 30 minutes or so it will start again. If the
> > motor is cold
> > > it usually starts. Also, when i come to a stop sign it
> > idles way down
> > > ( 200-300) RPM’s. I have to give it gas when stopped to keep
> > it from
> > > stalling, and if it dies at this point it is difficult to
> > get it to
> > > start again. I am a college student with a limited income
> > please
> > > help! Advise i have gotten so far is: Crankshaft (crank
> > angle)
> > > position sensor, leaky injector, and bad ground. I don’t
> > know where
> > > to start, please help.
> > >
> > > starving college student
> > >
> >
> > I would add a bad MAF, bad oxygen sensor and possibly bad
> > engine temp
> > sensor (keeping the ECU in a 'rich' mode) to the list.
> >
> > Is the check engine light on? Can you get the codes read?
> >
> > Also, post your city/area as someone here may know of a
> > reputavble
> > mechanic/dealership located nearby.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
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Someone here may be familiar with your area. I am not.
But, if you have an Autozone or perhaps other parts dealer - they will
sometimes read and/or clear codes(they expect you will buy a part from
them). Or, pay a friendly mechanic $10-%15 to do it for you.
Best procedure - if possible, get the codes read, WRITE THEM DOWN
ACCURATELY and post them here. try to get them to clear the codes.
Likely, the light will come back on. THEN get them read again, and post.
It is not uncommon to have an older car or a 'bad gas experience' set an
occasional misfire code. We will be looking for a more specific code -
hopefully pointing to a cheap sensor that would be inexpensive to replace.

Please note, Walmart, pepBoys ,A'zone and even harbor Freight and Ebay
sell OBDII readers. I THINK your car is OBDII. ANYONE???

If it isn't, there's another way to get the codes. check
www.troublecodes.net

Carl


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On Apr 26, 1:10 pm, Carl 1 Lucky Texan <alcky....RemoveThis@swbell.not> wrote:
> errksnerk wrote:
> > I live in Reno Nevada.  The check engine light is on. Should i go to a
> > dealership or will any mechanic do?
>
> > "Carl 1 Lucky Texan" wrote:
> >  > errksnerk wrote:
>
> >  > > My legacy is having issues!  It often will not start.  It
> >  > turns over
> >  > > but  there is no clicking noise.  I also sometimes smell gas
> >  > and
> >  > > getting poor gas mileage as well.   If it will not start i
> >  > let it sit
> >  > > and after 30 minutes or so it will start again.  If the
> >  > motor is cold
> >  > > it usually starts.  Also, when i come to a stop sign it
> >  > idles way down
> >  > > ( 200-300) RPM’s. I have to give it gas when stopped to keep
> >  > it from
> >  > > stalling, and if it dies at this point it is difficult to
> >  > get it to
> >  > > start again.  I am a college student with a limited income
> >  > please
> >  > > help!  Advise i have gotten so far is: Crankshaft (crank
> >  > angle)
> >  > > position sensor, leaky injector, and bad ground.  I don’t
> >  > know where
> >  > > to start, please help.
>
> >  > > starving college student
>
> >  > I would add a bad MAF, bad oxygen sensor and possibly bad
> >  > engine temp
> >  > sensor (keeping the ECU in a 'rich' mode) to the list.
>
> >  > Is the check engine light on? Can you get the codes read?
>
> >  > Also, post your city/area as someone here may know of a
> >  > reputavble
> >  > mechanic/dealership located nearby.
>
> >  > Carl
>
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>
> Someone here may be familiar with your area. I am not.
> But, if you have an Autozone or perhaps other parts dealer - they will
> sometimes read and/or clear codes(they expect you will buy a part from
> them). Or, pay a friendly mechanic $10-%15 to do it for you.
> Best procedure - if possible, get the codes read, WRITE THEM DOWN
> ACCURATELY and post them here. try to get them to clear the codes.
> Likely, the light will come back on. THEN get them read again, and post.
> It is not uncommon to have an older car or a 'bad gas experience' set an
> occasional misfire code. We will be looking for a more specific code -
> hopefully pointing to a cheap sensor that would be inexpensive to replace.
>
> Please note, Walmart, pepBoys ,A'zone  and even harbor Freight and Ebay
> sell OBDII readers. I THINK your car is OBDII. ANYONE???
>
> If it isn't, there's another way to get the codes. checkwww.troublecodes.net
>
> Carl
>
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>
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I have a 1995 Legacy and it is OBDII
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Hey thanks for the reply! I got the codes read but the check engine light has not came back on yet. I don't know which part of the code is useful so I'll post everything that the machine said: J1850 Iso 9141 Keyword 2000. Once the light comes back on i will get it checked and post again. Thank you for help


Erik
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On May 1, 3:22 pm, errksnerk <n....TakeThisOut@000.com> wrote:
> Hey thanks for the reply!  I got the codes read but the check engine
> light has not came back on yet.  I don’t know which part of the code
> is useful so I’ll post everything that the machine said:  J1850   Iso
> 9141  Keyword 2000.   Once the light comes back on i will get it
> checked and post again.  Thank you for help
>
> Erik
>
> "Carl 1 Lucky Texan" wrote: > errksnerk wrote:
>
>  >
>  > > I live in Reno Nevada.  The check engine light is on. Should
>  > i go to a
>  > > dealership or will any mechanic do?
>  > >
>  > > "Carl 1 Lucky Texan" wrote:
>  > >  > errksnerk wrote:
>  > >  >
>  > >  > > My legacy is having issues!  It often will not start.
>  > It
>  > >  > turns over
>  > >  > > but  there is no clicking noise.  I also sometimes
>  > smell gas
>  > >  > and
>  > >  > > getting poor gas mileage as well.   If it will not
>  > start i
>  > >  > let it sit
>  > >  > > and after 30 minutes or so it will start again.  If the
>  > >  > motor is cold
>  > >  > > it usually starts.  Also, when i come to a stop sign it
>  > >  > idles way down
>  > >  > > ( 200-300) RPM’s. I have to give it gas when stopped to
>  > keep
>  > >  > it from
>  > >  > > stalling, and if it dies at this point it is difficult
>  > to
>  > >  > get it to
>  > >  > > start again.  I am a college student with a limited
>  > income
>  > >  > please
>  > >  > > help!  Advise i have gotten so far is: Crankshaft
>  > (crank
>  > >  > angle)
>  > >  > > position sensor, leaky injector, and bad ground.  I
>  > don’t
>  > >  > know where
>  > >  > > to start, please help.
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > > starving college student
>  > >  > >
>  > >  >
>  > >  > I would add a bad MAF, bad oxygen sensor and possibly bad
>  > >  > engine temp
>  > >  > sensor (keeping the ECU in a 'rich' mode) to the list.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Is the check engine light on? Can you get the codes read?
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Also, post your city/area as someone here may know of a
>  > >  > reputavble
>  > >  > mechanic/dealership located nearby.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Carl
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  > --
>  > >  > to reply, change  ( .not)  to  ( .net)
>  > >
>  >
>  >
>  > Someone here may be familiar with your area. I am not.
>  > But, if you have an Autozone or perhaps other parts dealer -
>  > they will
>  > sometimes read and/or clear codes(they expect you will buy a
>  > part from
>  > them). Or, pay a friendly mechanic $10-%15 to do it for you.
>  > Best procedure - if possible, get the codes read, WRITE THEM
>  > DOWN
>  > ACCURATELY and post them here. try to get them to clear the
>  > codes.
>  > Likely, the light will come back on. THEN get them read again,
>  > and post.
>  > It is not uncommon to have an older car or a 'bad gas
>  > experience' set an
>  > occasional misfire code. We will be looking for a more
>  > specific code -
>  > hopefully pointing to a cheap sensor that would be inexpensive
>  > to replace.
>  >
>  > Please note, Walmart, pepBoys ,A'zone  and even harbor Freight
>  > and Ebay
>  > sell OBDII readers. I THINK your car is OBDII. ANYONE???
>  >
>  > If it isn't, there's another way to get the codes. check
>  >www.troublecodes.net
>  >
>  > Carl
>  >
>  >
>  > --
>  > to reply, change  ( .not)  to  ( .net)

I don't see where those numbers mean anything according to Wikipedia.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OBD-II#OBD-II
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errksnerk wrote:

> Hey thanks for the reply! I got the codes read but the check engine
> light has not came back on yet. I don’t know which part of the code
> is useful so I’ll post everything that the machine said: J1850 Iso
> 9141 Keyword 2000. Once the light comes back on i will get it
> checked and post again. Thank you for help
>
>
> Erik
>
> "Carl 1 Lucky Texan" wrote:
> > errksnerk wrote:
> >
> > > I live in Reno Nevada. The check engine light is on. Should
> > i go to a
> > > dealership or will any mechanic do?
> > >
> > > "Carl 1 Lucky Texan" wrote:
> > > > errksnerk wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > My legacy is having issues! It often will not start.
> > It
> > > > turns over
> > > > > but there is no clicking noise. I also sometimes
> > smell gas
> > > > and
> > > > > getting poor gas mileage as well. If it will not
> > start i
> > > > let it sit
> > > > > and after 30 minutes or so it will start again. If the
> > > > motor is cold
> > > > > it usually starts. Also, when i come to a stop sign it
> > > > idles way down
> > > > > ( 200-300) RPM’s. I have to give it gas when stopped to
> > keep
> > > > it from
> > > > > stalling, and if it dies at this point it is difficult
> > to
> > > > get it to
> > > > > start again. I am a college student with a limited
> > income
> > > > please
> > > > > help! Advise i have gotten so far is: Crankshaft
> > (crank
> > > > angle)
> > > > > position sensor, leaky injector, and bad ground. I
> > don’t
> > > > know where
> > > > > to start, please help.
> > > > >
> > > > > starving college student
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I would add a bad MAF, bad oxygen sensor and possibly bad
> > > > engine temp
> > > > sensor (keeping the ECU in a 'rich' mode) to the list.
> > > >
> > > > Is the check engine light on? Can you get the codes read?
> > > >
> > > > Also, post your city/area as someone here may know of a
> > > > reputavble
> > > > mechanic/dealership located nearby.
> > > >
> > > > Carl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > to reply, change ( .not) to ( .net)
> > >
> >
> >
> > Someone here may be familiar with your area. I am not.
> > But, if you have an Autozone or perhaps other parts dealer -
> > they will
> > sometimes read and/or clear codes(they expect you will buy a
> > part from
> > them). Or, pay a friendly mechanic $10-%15 to do it for you.
> > Best procedure - if possible, get the codes read, WRITE THEM
> > DOWN
> > ACCURATELY and post them here. try to get them to clear the
> > codes.
> > Likely, the light will come back on. THEN get them read again,
> > and post.
> > It is not uncommon to have an older car or a 'bad gas
> > experience' set an
> > occasional misfire code. We will be looking for a more
> > specific code -
> > hopefully pointing to a cheap sensor that would be inexpensive
> > to replace.
> >
> > Please note, Walmart, pepBoys ,A'zone and even harbor Freight
> > and Ebay
> > sell OBDII readers. I THINK your car is OBDII. ANYONE???
> >
> > If it isn't, there's another way to get the codes. check
> > www.troublecodes.net
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > --
> > to reply, change ( .not) to ( .net)


The numbers you posted do not seem to be thr right format/range. Take a
look at the OBDII section (bottom set) here;
http://www.troublecodes.net/Subaru/

for an idea of what we're looking for.


Does the car still have the problems you mentioned or is it running
better? Sometimes clearing the code will reset to the factory map and a
car might run better for a while.


Carl


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http://www.troublecodes.net indicates that code "J1850" is a communication error. This could mean anything from the code reader used has a malfunction, there's a bad connection to the code reader, your battery voltage is too low, there's a bad connection out of your Subaru's ECM (Engine Control Module), or maybe even internal issues with the ECM. You should try a different code reader, though, and then clean the connectors with electronic cleaner before trying another ECM (it's important to follow the directions on the cleaner). Good luck!
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OK I got it read again. Two items: P0340, Cam sensor and P0115, ECT.
Where should I start? Auto zone said that the Camshaft Position Sensor is around $40 should i buy this and replace mine? Or should I look into the ECT first? Are either hard to replace? Any and all help would be appreciated. Thanks

Erik
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errksnerk wrote:

> OK I got it read again. Two items: P0340, Cam sensor and P0115, ECT.
> Where should I start? Auto zone said that the Camshaft Position
> Sensor is around $40 should i buy this and replace mine? Or should I
> look into the ECT first? Are either hard to replace? Any and all help
> would be appreciated. Thanks

I'm not Fuzzy but will jump in with a comment.The ECT is 'probably' the
problem. It is keeping the fuel system in 'choke' mode which explains
the poor running and gas/fuel smell.

While you should also investigate the cam angle sensor, it is a 'backup'
check for the crank angle sensor in case of timing belt slippage(IIRC).
Probably should be repaired but 'probably' is not causing the poor
running conditions. I suppose they could BOTH be masking part of each
others problem.
If I were you, I'd try to just get both done. If it is IMPERATIVE to
'try' to save every penny, I'd do the temp sensor first. (pretty sure
this is NOT the gauge sensor, it is the Engine Temp sensor).

Hope someone else can offer more definite advice.
Good job getting the codes read and posted for us!

Carl




>
> Erik
>
> "Fuzzy" wrote:
> > www.troublecodes.net indicates that code "J1850" is a
> > communication error. This could mean anything from the code
> > reader used has a malfunction, there's a bad connection to the
> > code reader, your battery voltage is too low, there's a bad
> > connection out of your Subaru's ECM (Engine Control Module),
> > or maybe even internal issues with the ECM. You should try a
> > different code reader, though, and then clean the connectors
> > with electronic cleaner before trying another ECM (it's
> > important to follow the directions on the cleaner). Good
> > luck!


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