05 Camry: what oil to use?

"Russell" <russell7702REMOVE RemoveThis @THISearthlink.net> wrote in message
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> The "new" Camry needs to go in for it's first oil change. It gets driven
> about 15K miles a year and I intend to get the oil changed (at a very
> competent independent mechanic) every 5K miles. The car is in NC and the
> driving is about a 50-50 mix of city and highway driving. I expect to
keep
> the car 8 years or 120000 miles. That being said should use conventional
> oil or one of the more expensive synthetics?
>
> Any opinions would be appreciated.

Any good quality oil should be more than sufficient to make only 120,000
miles if you change it every 5000 miles. I have always been satisfied with
Havoline. My Sister has a 1997 Civic. It is just now passing 110,000 miles.
Her oil has been changed whenever the oil change indicator built into the
odometer turns red (which is about every 7500 miles). Her driving is around
50/50 as well. The rest of the car is looking old (paint fading, falling
off, interior worn) but the engine is just fine. Synthetics provide a an
extra margin of protection, but I doubt synthetic oil is economically
justifiable in a relatively mild climate like NC unless you just want to
feel good about the quality of the oil. If you are going to use synthetic
oil, I'd go with Mobil 1.

Ed
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I'd wait til you have more like 10k miles on it to switch to Mobile 1. I
use Penn crude (Quakerstate, Kendall, Pennsoil, Castrol) personnally but I
change ever 3-4k. Use a quality oil filter --- not a <$5 one -- OEM ones are
good, Modile makes one, K&N.

"Russell" <russell7702REMOVE DeleteThis @THISearthlink.net> wrote in message
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> The "new" Camry needs to go in for it's first oil change. It gets driven
> about 15K miles a year and I intend to get the oil changed (at a very
> competent independent mechanic) every 5K miles. The car is in NC and the
> driving is about a 50-50 mix of city and highway driving. I expect to
> keep the car 8 years or 120000 miles. That being said should use
> conventional oil or one of the more expensive synthetics?
>
> Any opinions would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Russell
>
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> Answering the question is answering it. Of course, use synthetics. But
> good

Of course, I meant "asking the question".... LOL
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My mechanic only uses Toyota filters - so that's what I'll be using. The
car has 1200 miles on it. He suggested the first oil change at about 1500
miles. What's the reason for waiting till about 10K miles to switch to a
synthetic?

Russell

"Wolfgang" <NOwolfgangdieterSPAM RemoveThis @cox.net> wrote in message
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> I'd wait til you have more like 10k miles on it to switch to Mobile 1. I
> use Penn crude (Quakerstate, Kendall, Pennsoil, Castrol) personnally but I
> change ever 3-4k. Use a quality oil filter --- not a <$5 one -- OEM ones
> are good, Modile makes one, K&N.
>
> "Russell" <russell7702REMOVE RemoveThis @THISearthlink.net> wrote in message
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>> The "new" Camry needs to go in for it's first oil change. It gets driven
>> about 15K miles a year and I intend to get the oil changed (at a very
>> competent independent mechanic) every 5K miles. The car is in NC and the
>> driving is about a 50-50 mix of city and highway driving. I expect to
>> keep the car 8 years or 120000 miles. That being said should use
>> conventional oil or one of the more expensive synthetics?
>>
>> Any opinions would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Russell
>>
>
>
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You can easily use regular oil. Synthetics will be overkill and expensive
in your non-turbocharged application. Every 5k miles is fine with "dino
juice".


"Russell" <russell7702REMOVE RemoveThis @THISearthlink.net> wrote in message
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> The "new" Camry needs to go in for it's first oil change. It gets driven
> about 15K miles a year and I intend to get the oil changed (at a very
> competent independent mechanic) every 5K miles. The car is in NC and the
> driving is about a 50-50 mix of city and highway driving. I expect to
> keep the car 8 years or 120000 miles. That being said should use
> conventional oil or one of the more expensive synthetics?
>
> Any opinions would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Russell
>
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> "Russell" <russell7702REMOVE DeleteThis @THISearthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:WqfRe.4575$9i4.3019@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> The "new" Camry needs to go in for it's first oil change. It gets driven
>> about 15K miles a year and I intend to get the oil changed (at a very
>> competent independent mechanic) every 5K miles. The car is in NC and the
>> driving is about a 50-50 mix of city and highway driving. I expect to
>> keep the car 8 years or 120000 miles. That being said should use
>> conventional oil or one of the more expensive synthetics?
>>
>> Any opinions would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Russell
>>

If you absolutely cannot afford a full synthetic (recommended) at least use
a synthetic blend. You would be better off using full synthetic and changing
oil at every 7500 miles, rather than using conventional oil changed at 5000
miles (that will offset some of the extra cost).

Use 5W-30 oil regardless of which type you choose. You can consider
switching to a heavier viscosity when your engine gets a lot of miles and
the valves/rings are showing some serious wear.
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is your car not equipped with an owners manual?
can you not READ it?


"Russell" <russell7702REMOVE DeleteThis @THISearthlink.net> wrote in message
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> The "new" Camry needs to go in for it's first oil change. It gets driven
> about 15K miles a year and I intend to get the oil changed (at a very
> competent independent mechanic) every 5K miles. The car is in NC and the
> driving is about a 50-50 mix of city and highway driving. I expect to
keep
> the car 8 years or 120000 miles. That being said should use conventional
> oil or one of the more expensive synthetics?
>
> Any opinions would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Russell
>
>
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I agree with Russell.
Unless you have a defiant need for synthetic why pay the extra money ?
Would be over kill.
I have a 02 Camry that has been raised on Chevron 5/30 dino.Runs like a
top.
Best car I ever had.

Of course it's super Lo mileage (7,500).
I'm retired since "94".Was a Mobil One
salesman for five years,so I'm very familiar with what synthetics can
do.
Good Luck with your 05.
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> You can easily use regular oil. Synthetics will be overkill and expensive
> in your non-turbocharged application. Every 5k miles is fine with "dino
> juice".

Dino oil is, indeed fine but, synthetics reduce friction and heat. So, you
get better fuel consumption, less wear and better use of the engine's
available power.

Other than that, dino oil is just fine. (rolling eyes)
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"Bassplayer12" <perettij RemoveThis @nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
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>> You can easily use regular oil. Synthetics will be overkill and
>> expensive in your non-turbocharged application. Every 5k miles is fine
>> with "dino juice".
>
> Dino oil is, indeed fine but, synthetics reduce friction and heat. So, you
> get better fuel consumption, less wear and better use of the engine's
> available power.
>
> Other than that, dino oil is just fine. (rolling eyes)

Like any of that is measurable. He's keeping the car for 120,000 miles, not
320.
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My dear, is there any thing in my post that leads you to believe that I've
not read the manual? Let me not waste any more effort on this genius.

To all the other helpful folk: thanks for all the feedback. According to
the 2005 manual, I need to change the oil every 5000 miles (or 6 months) -
with no exception given for synthetics. And since the car gets driven 15000
miles a year it means three oil changes to maintain the warranty. In fact
the manual has no mention of synthetics, which is what motivated my original
post since I intend to keep the car for 8 years (120000 miles) I should
have mentioned this before as I'm not sure all are familiar with the 5000
mile requirement (which if I remember correctly my '97 Camry didn't have).

Thanks,

Russell

"I'm Right" <ImRight RemoveThis @urWrong.net> wrote in message
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> is your car not equipped with an owners manual?
> can you not READ it?
>
>
> "Russell" <russell7702REMOVE RemoveThis @THISearthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:WqfRe.4575$9i4.3019@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> The "new" Camry needs to go in for it's first oil change. It gets driven
>> about 15K miles a year and I intend to get the oil changed (at a very
>> competent independent mechanic) every 5K miles. The car is in NC and the
>> driving is about a 50-50 mix of city and highway driving. I expect to
> keep
>> the car 8 years or 120000 miles. That being said should use conventional
>> oil or one of the more expensive synthetics?
>>
>> Any opinions would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Russell
>>
>>
>
>
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-I agree with Russell.
-Unless you have a defiant need for synthetic why pay the extra money ?

At the end of the year, how much more does synthetic oil cost? I don't think
we're talking hundreds of dollars here. I think we waste much more in pops,
chocolate bars, chips.

-Would be over kill.
-I have a 02 Camry that has been raised on Chevron 5/30 dino.Runs like a
-top.
-Best car I ever had.

-Of course it's super Lo mileage (7,500).
-I'm retired since "94".Was a Mobil One
-salesman for five years,so I'm very familiar with what synthetics can
-do.
-Good Luck with your 05.
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Wolfgang wrote:
.. Toyota does recommend
> (but not in the OEM owners manual) synthetic in those years where
> engine sludging was a problem. Synthetics keep the engine very clean
> internally.

The only information I've seen from Toyota to eliminate sludging is to
change oil in proper intervals. I called my local dealer when this
information was posted the first time, a short while back, about Toyota
recommending synthetic to eliminate sludging and they state they have never
heard of this. They would also like to have any references to this
information just in case the general public was informed of something they
weren't. If you have those references I would be more than happy to pass
them on to my dealer.
davidj92
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